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    Health, not weight

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    For those of you who are still afraid to ditch the scale, or who are measuring your success by the number on it, here's some more reasons to stop doing that.

    Obesity police busted? Study says fat folks can be healthy - HealthPop - CBS News

    It turns out that being fat, by itself, is NOT a health risk. When you control for diabetes, high blood pressure, and other problems, fat people live just as long as thin people, and in fact they live LONGER than thin people. It's about getting healthy, not getting skinny.

    Which means the focus needs to be on disease prevention, not on weight control. And we know how to control the diseases of civilization - don't eat the things that cause them. Simple. Easy. Doable.
    Primal eating in a nutshell: If you are hungry, eat Primal food until you are satisfied (not stuffed). Then stop. Wait until you're hungry again. Repeat.

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    What a bunch of bullshit to believe in.

    There are countless reasons that being lean is far superior to obesity. Quality of life for one.

    Live long. Drop dead.

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    That's your choice. I choose not to stress myself out about being fat. I don't want to be a ripped meathead athlete who only thinks about his body fat percentage and how big his muscles are getting; I have more important things to do with my time.

    And I'll live as long as you will. Dismiss the research if you want, but it doesn't make it any less valid just because you don't like its conclusions.
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    I'm not going to stress about being fat because Im eating healthy and it's melting away. I will not be satisfied with being heavy, because it's bad for my joints and just makes life harder.

    I don't walk(heavy people wear out their knees and such) but I am in a wheelchair - I have to do pressure relief lifts every 15 minutes. If I stay fat, I will just do that much more wear & tear damage to my shoulders.

    The lighter the better( to a certian point )

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    I can only speak for myself, but anything about 150 pounds on me makes me feel ill, and Im not talking looks. I feel unfit, its harder to breathe and I just don't have the energy-levels I have when I'm around 130 pounds. So the numbers on the scales might just be numbers, but I know what size I need to be to feel really healthy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Griff View Post
    It turns out that being fat, by itself, is NOT a health risk. When you control for diabetes, high blood pressure, and other problems, fat people live just as long as thin people, and in fact they live LONGER than thin people. It's about getting healthy, not getting skinny.

    Which means the focus needs to be on disease prevention, not on weight control. And we know how to control the diseases of civilization - don't eat the things that cause them. Simple. Easy. Doable.
    I agree. I also think that preventing disease takes federal regulation to help shift consumer focus from junk food to fresh food and give rewards/incentives to companies that produce fresh food. Americans are too egotistic and would say "Hands off my food choices!", unfortunately. Even more unfortunately, a parent's crappy food choices will get passed down to the child and amplified even more.

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    I think this research is incredibly valuable if doctors start paying attention to it. We waste a lot of medical resources on trying to make people thinner when it is more important to make them healthier. Sometimes, improving other indicators of health, particularly those associated with metabolic syndrome, may also result in people becoming thinner, but thinness in itself is not an ideal goal.

    By essentially triaging fat people into healthy and unhealthy groups, those people who actually have health conditions can receive suitable treatment for them. I've heard so many stories from people who have gone to their doctors and been prescribed blood pressure meds and other drugs, even though those indicators were normal, because their doctors could not grasp the idea that a large person could be healthy. That's a waste of resources and poses a significant risk to those people's health. Also, fat people are more likely to experience more serious outcomes from non-obesity-related illnesses because the response of medical professionals is to blame any and all health symptoms on a person's weight, thus missing diagnosing treatable conditions.
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    Just goes to show you can't always judge a person by their weight. My doctor is a bit miffed that she can't tell me how bad obesity is for my health because my bloodwork always comes back golden. That said, I don't look like the picture of health at this weight, and that is a motivator for me to lose the excess fat. I hate being looked down on for outward appearance.
    I'm retraining and strengthening my taste buds, one primal meal at a time.

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    I don't care if I can be healthy at my current weight. If I can be healthy weighing 30 pounds less, then I'm going to try to weigh 30 pounds less. Maybe being slightly overweight won't necessarily cause cancer or heart disease or diabetes, but I'm only 18 years old I'm not going to be happy unless I can look great in the clothes I like and have fun in a relationship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heidi View Post
    Just goes to show you can't always judge a person by their weight. My doctor is a bit miffed that she can't tell me how bad obesity is for my health because my bloodwork always comes back golden.
    Oh, isn't it fun to do that to doctors? They hate it when we don't fit into their statistical predictions.
    Primal eating in a nutshell: If you are hungry, eat Primal food until you are satisfied (not stuffed). Then stop. Wait until you're hungry again. Repeat.

    Looking for my Cholesterol Primer? Here it is: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum...mer-(Attempt-2)


    Ditch the scale!: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread33283.html

    My Success Story: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread30615.html

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