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    Pissing into the wind, people will not listen

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    My type II diabetic mother in law (81) had a TIA and we are taking care of her in our home. Her breakfast, Kellogg corn flakes/skim milk/sugar or oatmeal. Lunch granola bars and HFCS yogurt. Processed fruit juices throughout the day for thirst. Dinner lots of rice, corn, bread. I have talked to her about carbs converting to sugar, she wants what she wants. My sister in law who essentially eats the same told me to mind my own business because I am not a doctor and WHAT the hell will she eat. Now her CW physician has her on statins and another cholesterol controlling drug.

    I have found that if I discuss the paleo thing with people they essentially think it is a fad diet and a bit wacko. My conclusion is that I can actually get the message across to very few people. Most Americans essentially do not care to be bothered with their health.
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    I hear, I feel the same way! My dad is a specialist on diabetes at the biggest university hospital in our country, and he still advocates low-carb, but thinks grains are okay in very small doses. 3 times daily. Sigh!

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    Have you tried hitting him?
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    There's no point in discussing something with someone who's not interested in the possibility of considering it. Big waste of time.

    And, no offense to your mother, but 81 year olds aren't exactly known for being eager about new ideas...
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    Yeah. I hear you. It sucks. The only answer i have.
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    This is exactly what I'm talking about!! I just wrote a venting post at the same time this post was started (We are Wrong - I am in despair)! It's like a bombardment!

    In Australia at least, the party line is low fat for diabetes and keep those grains coming because they're so full of fibre!!! I thank God I'm not diabetic because I think hearing this from a doctor and attempting to following something that keeps you continually hungry would be torture on top of all of the stress of dealing with a serious condition. Because the government sets the rules for healthcare (i.e. the vast majority of doctors are paid publicly via the medicare system) the doctors must follow these rules if they want to get "paid" so-to-speak. There is no way you'd go to your GP and s/he'd say, "up that fat and protein intake and cut out those grains". They'd face some kind of sanctioning or be burned at the stake for heresy.

    And yes, my impression is the primal/paleo life is seen as just another passing fad. Oh I can't wait for the day when I look as good as I feel and if someone asks how I did it, I'd say, well I drastically cut back on my exercise and started eating way more fat and gave all grains the boot! Oh please let me have the pleasure of that one tiny moment .... please please please!

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    I hear you. My grandparents are the same way...and even my mother (who is 45) is mildly so. She has gone lower carb, but still recites the "fine in moderation and good whole grains" motto. She's moving back home to New Hampshire from North Carolina soon so I'm hoping I can give her the final push to finally eliminate grains in general.

    As for my grandparents...it's hopeless. My grandfather is the most stubborn man ever. They are on so many medications and have so many health problems, and as far as grandparents go, they're relatively young (70s). They have tons of bread and sugary snacks (don't ask my why as diabetics they buy sugary snacks, but they do). I'm just hoping they stick around long enough with their lifestyle to see me get married next year and perhaps see some grandkids in the following years.

    I ALWAYS get "sounds like Atkins" as soon as I tell people about this diet, *sigh*. Then usually "I tried that and it didn't work". Oh well...I'm hoping that I'll be getting some good results and I can tell them to shove it, lol.

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    You can talk until your blue in the face and do no good. Its when people see you dropping weight and looking so healthy that they really take notice. People will only change their lifestyle when they decide to and usually that takes being jealous of what someone else has in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PrimalClay View Post
    You can talk until your blue in the face and do no good. Its when people see you dropping weight and looking so healthy that they really take notice. People will only change their lifestyle when they decide to and usually that takes being jealous of what someone else has in my opinion.
    This. I've learned to shut up when it comes to my husband and sister who are both Type II as well. I figure if they wanna die at 50 so be it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PrimalClay View Post
    You can talk until your blue in the face and do no good. Its when people see you dropping weight and looking so healthy that they really take notice. People will only change their lifestyle when they decide to and usually that takes being jealous of what someone else has in my opinion.
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