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    I have done SCD - read the book, did the supps (glutamine, molybdenum, etc.) and I can't say that it helped me much. I think many of the principles can be helpful and there are some that I do use to this day - if my stomach feels particularly taxed, I might due a few days inspired by the intro diet to get myself back to baseline - but I also found a lot of the "allowed" foods to be terrible for me. So it is a great way to find what works for you, but don't continue to follow any of the "rules" if they aren't working for you. Also, I feel like it's more geared towards people with IBS-D, not C.
    Is it weird in here, or is it just me?

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    Gluten-free day 10

    Om, I'm doing a lot of "supplementary" reading too, about SCD and constipation in particular. Looks like some people continue their side treatments (mag citrate, prunes, whatever) while doing SCD. I think there may be specific foods that are problematic for me and this is at least a way to begin identifying them. I don't want to be on all these supplements for the rest of my life unless something in my digestive system is seriously broken

    This morning, I had a revelation about my history of constipation. It HAS been a life-long issue. I would say I was regularly constipated, though I have no idea with what frequency. I have very clear memories of being afraid to poop while at a friend's house because I didn't want to spend a while in the bathroom. This happened a lot. I never told anyone about those problems because I'd forget it easily and nothing had ever indicated to me that this wasn't normal. I have been a milk-drinker and dairy-consumer for my whole life. I wonder if it in fact never agreed with me, it just wasn't as noticeable until now. I hope that the 24-hr fermented yogurt either sits okay with me or there are easy substitutions for some of the dairy recipes in the Breaking the Vicious Cycle book. I didn't get a chance to start reading last night.

    Speaking of which, I had ice cream last night and slept poorly. I'm very tired today.
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    Yay day 10!

    Your constipation revelation is very interesting. I wonder how many of us suffer with something obliviously until it becomes untenable.

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    I have a friend who has always had the constipation problem and so has her daughter. She found dairy to be very problematic and meat also, so she is now vegan and doing very well and so is daughter. I must admit, she is looking good and kiddo is too. I worry about the long term for them though as she believes that broccoli has more protein that steak (you can find studies done that support any nonsense)! I wonder if the meat digestion has to do with her messed up gut and if she straightens that out, would it get better. Maybe her body doesn't produce the enzymes to digest meat well either. I think vegan is fine for a detox diet, but long term not so much. Anyway, good luck finding your answers! Don't stress about the meal prep or cost right now, just use this time for learning and you can figure out the rest later!

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    I would think underproduction of enzymes or bile would affect issues with digesting meat. I think all those veggies would destroy my gut right now!

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    There are a few different types of constipation. I take it that yours is more of the "need to go but can't" variety that causes straining? Is that correct? It seems like that is more due to some sort of intolerance to a particular food (like dairy, as you mention) so I agree that SCD would provide good guidelines for figuring out what works for you.

    I also realized that I have been dealing with my form of constipation (just not going for days at a time) since I was young as well but I never realized it was an "issue" back then. I definitely went days and days at a time without having a BM. I also had painful stomach cramping when I was a child and I wonder if they coincided with going after days of not... No way to recall, unfortunately.
    Is it weird in here, or is it just me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ombat View Post
    There are a few different types of constipation. I take it that yours is more of the "need to go but can't" variety that causes straining? Is that correct?
    Yup.

    I also realized that I have been dealing with my form of constipation (just not going for days at a time) since I was young as well but I never realized it was an "issue" back then. I definitely went days and days at a time without having a BM. I also had painful stomach cramping when I was a child and I wonder if they coincided with going after days of not... No way to recall, unfortunately.
    I can't remember ever having cramping, not until things got really backed up starting last year, but I was usually an every-other-day pooper.

    I'm anxious and excited about doing something different. I'm probably going to go a little dairy-crazy this week because even though I'll be starting off with some dairy next week, I'm sure, it's not going to be ice cream
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    Hope this works for you! happy thoughts!!!

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    I'm so glad that you're having revelations about your gut! I'm still nowhere near figuring out mine...

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    Speaking of which, I had ice cream last night and slept poorly. I'm very tired today.
    It always amazes me how different we all are. After sugar I sleep like the dead! Particularly ice cream
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    In practice, this means that a major part of the diet should be milk, cheese, eggs, shellfish, fruits and coconut oil, with vitamin E and salt as the safest supplements."

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    Gluten-free day 11

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    I think I'll stop tracking the days once I hit two weeks. I should be gluten-free for at least the rest of the month, since Hulky will be gone & I'll be trying the SCD or something like it. The strict adherence scares me...

    Another rough night of sleep. I finished the ice cream last night (Ben & Jerry's vanilla w/ Heath bar, don't know what it's called) and had an episode of anxiety around bedtime. I talked myself through it, took a GABA Calm, put in ear plugs (Hulky was playing video games online w/ friends in the other room), and started dozing off before the GABA Calm had totally melted under my tongue. Since I swapped beds (to the pillow-top, we've been sleeping on my Ikea bed in the computer room all summer, it's much firmer) last night, I expected not to sleep as well, but I slept basically fine. I used to always sleep badly on the first night of a new "location" (travelling or just any different bed), but I guess that's changing now that I sleep more...efficiently? I did snooze with Hulky this morning, so no time for the neti pot. I think I'll get one of those little saline bottles so I can do the quickie version to loosen things up on lazy mornings.

    Sleepiness combined with congestion = rough ride this morning. I felt like I had no air, like it was very humid out (hint: it's not).

    I read all of Breaking the Vicious Cycle last night. I marked a ton of passages with little post-it tabs. I'll post some of the marked stuff later this week. Tomi, a lot of it made me think of you. It starts off with a history of celiac disease and various scientists' studies on poor digestion & health. It explains how carbohydrates get processed by the stomach & intestines (enzymes & absorption), as well as the different kinds of carbs (poly-, mono-, and di-sacchirides). There's a lot of testimonial information in it, which is reassuring, but none of the examples really fit my own issue. It's focused primarily on celiac disease, which is only an official diagnosis with certain criteria, such as certain stool types, damage to the microvilli in the intestines, & extreme weight loss/evidence of malnutrition. It also focuses mostly on diarrhea. When my gut isn't super inflamed & I avoid dairy, non-compliant ("non-paleo") can give me diarrhea, but I'm mostly usually constipated. Maybe this will still help.

    I'm checking out the SCDLifestyle website today. I signed up for some free info and it sent a different intro diet than the BTVC book describes. It's dairy-free and seems easier to follow, though rather boring. In the beginning, it's just chicken soup (with veggies removed after cooking), pureed carrots, and watered down juice. Not sure at this point what I'll do, but I want to do all my shopping & cooking on Sunday.
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