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    Quote Originally Posted by nuttmegs17 View Post
    Good news! My current doc decided to give me a perscription to LDN!!!
    In your research, have you found that depression is more likely with this treatment? I know they are combining it with anti-depressant, so was curious about this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DigitalSurgeon View Post
    children get sick because of their diet. If you fix it and get them optimal they do not get sick. My son used to get this all the time. He no longer does since his reset. 3 yrs nothing. 1 yr for my little one who was resistant to my message until I laid down the iron fist down on her and the wife. They hated me then but they aint hating no more.
    My children are not primal yet. I'm fixing myself first. Of course, because I cook they eat a lot less junk at breakfast and dinner, but I haven't been able to get them off wheat at lunch. So if your GD will go primal, that would definitely be the thing to try before surgery. I didn't know all this then, and so far I am happy I had the surgery for both of them. They have both slimmed down since then (in normal weight range before and after), but then maybe that's the changes they are getting even without going totally primal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kkcarlton View Post
    I just listened to another interview with Dr. Klinghardt on One Radio Network. Among many things he says that computer flat screens, including laptop screens, give off a polarized light that is polarized in a complete non-biological way in a 45 degree angle and has an immediate destructive effect on the pituitary. He says this is why so many people have thyroid issues and apparently many of his patients have been able to get off thyroid medication simply by protecting their thyroid while using the computer. Any thoughts on this?

    The other question I have is regarding hunger. I tried eating 75 grams of protein several days in a row and my hunger was still off the charts. Any thoughts or suggestions on this at all? Maybe my hunger is caused by parasites after all and not LR?
    He is correct.......more fuel for the chronobiology disruption of leptin.........Humans ruin themselves because of their creations......good in one sense bad in others. Just use them during light cycles.

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    Nutmegs! So glad your doc is going for it. Love to hear about good docs who are interested in new stuff. Please do keep us all posted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrMommyN View Post
    In your research, have you found that depression is more likely with this treatment? I know they are combining it with anti-depressant, so was curious about this.
    Yes, I did come across that - mostly those taking the full dosage as it stays in the system nonstop Those on full doses are usually presecribed Full Dose (50 MG) N bc they are addicted to something.... having the endorphins blocked for such a long time, can lead to depression. Apparently drug companies are now looking at ways to add the dosage to anti-depressants to lessen the effects

    For Low Dose Naldex, its only blocking endorphins for a short time frame (usually at night) so from what I understand, depression shouldnt be a problem. I have come across multiple stories of people saying they actually had a more positive outlook. Not sure how it will work for me...

    I'm not 100% sure how it actually works or why endorphins being blocked, help autoimmune disease...? Does anyone else know?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vkiernan View Post
    Except in my case since I am estrogen dominant I believe it said that it inhibits the absortion of iodine. So this would mean I need to get hormones in line before supplementing. This is probably why I felt nothing from all the iodine I had been supplementing with. But what is strange, I have been est dom for a very long time. I started using iodine in the spring and it helped with the breast tenderness. So why would it not be working now? Also, at that thime I got my info from reading Brownsteins's book and was taking the b's and selenium as recommended. Ideas Grizz?
    The selenium may have helped clearing some estrogen? I read that selenium is required in one of the processes to clear estrogen.. . ("estrogen sulfotransferase")

    Through complex protein-related transport and transfers, the main role of selenium is as selenoprotein in various forms, i.e.: (i) Gluthation peroxidase (GPx); (ii) Thioredoxin reductase; (iii) Iodothyronine deiodinase; (iv) Selenoprotein P; (v) Selenoprotein W; and (vi) Selenophosphate synthetase.

    The interrelationship between iodine and selenium in the soil need to be clarified. Although the issue is still interesting to search, most researchers agree that selenium plays important role in iodine metabolism through the following mechanismi) role of iodothyronie deiodinase which catalyses the conversion of T4 to T3 (and T3 to T2) as the most important path of thyroid hormon metabolism; (ii) role of GPx as main antioxidant which protect cell membrane (of also thyroid gland) to process thyroid metabolism; moreover GPx acts as balancer of availability of T4 and T3, especially in the important organs such as brain and heart, and very specially in foetus; (iii) estrogen sulfotransferase which control development estrogen to prevent excess which is potential to depress thyroid function. Role of interaction of selenium deficiency and goitrogenic overload is also found to be very important. Those all brings us to think of selenium-iodine balance in relation to the development of thyroid hormone.
    Source: http://www.mediamedika.net/archives/414 (among others)
    Unfortunately the full paper is in indonesionan(?)...
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    Quote Originally Posted by DigitalSurgeon View Post
    Seeing docs is for this is going to get more expensive. Insurance does not cover the time it takes to do all this work. This is labor intensive stuff. Plumbers cost 250.00 an hour. insurance pays maybe 50 bucks.
    I agree. I actually don't mind paying outright for health care when necessary, but I try to stay in the "system" as much as possible. My economic health needs care too! As I mentioned, my specific problem with that practice is that the doc looks so unhealthy to me. Maybe it's an unjustified prejudice, but I wouldn't hire a personal trainer who was obese either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrMommyN View Post
    My children are not primal yet. I'm fixing myself first. Of course, because I cook they eat a lot less junk at breakfast and dinner, but I haven't been able to get them off wheat at lunch. So if your GD will go primal, that would definitely be the thing to try before surgery. I didn't know all this then, and so far I am happy I had the surgery for both of them. They have both slimmed down since then (in normal weight range before and after), but then maybe that's the changes they are getting even without going totally primal.
    I could see that. My husband is not 100% primal/gluten free - when I dont cook he gets what he wants which sometimes contains wheat (but not always, he does notice he feels better wo it), but even just eating 75% gluten free/primal has made him look better than he did even at our wedding over a year ago. He generally doesnt keep a lot of wheat products in the house bc he is concerned with cross-contamination for me. Haha, kinda frustrating to want to lose weight and see him lose weight he didnt even need to lose so effortlessly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nuttmegs17 View Post
    Yes, I did come across that - mostly those taking the full dosage as it stays in the system nonstop Those on full doses are usually presecribed Full Dose (50 MG) N bc they are addicted to something.... having the endorphins blocked for such a long time, can lead to depression. Apparently drug companies are now looking at ways to add the dosage to anti-depressants to lessen the effects

    For Low Dose Naldex, its only blocking endorphins for a short time frame (usually at night) so from what I understand, depression shouldnt be a problem. I have come across multiple stories of people saying they actually had a more positive outlook. Not sure how it will work for me...

    I'm not 100% sure how it actually works or why endorphins being blocked, help autoimmune disease...
    The idea is that the blocking leads the body to increase its own production... That's supposedly why low doses (which clears in a short time) works best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kathylu View Post
    I agree. I actually don't mind paying outright for health care when necessary, but I try to stay in the "system" as much as possible. My economic health needs care too! As I mentioned, my specific problem with that practice is that the doc looks so unhealthy to me. Maybe it's an unjustified prejudice, but I wouldn't hire a personal trainer who was obese either.
    Exactly. I've paid $2000 for an CAT scan I didnt need (just ended up have celiac which could have been confirmed for free: simple elimination test!) which was what I owed AFTER insurance, a biopsy for $1500 (again, just stick to elimination diet) , ultrasounds (ruling out PCOS - which begs the question: why didnt they just run a testosterone and DHEA blood test?!), etc....I would gladly pay $2-3k doing things that seem to work like I am now (supplements, out of network docs..hopefully LDN!)..i get frustrated thinking of the money I wasted on CONVENTIONAL docs...I wish I knew then what i do now, but no sense regretting the past...it all brought me here!

    Leptin Reset is FREE and its already helped me feel better than many things i've tried...its one of many reasons mainstream docs will not recommend it...likewise, LDN is something that probably wont ever be FDA approved bc there is no money in curing/helping autoimmune disease with cheap drugs that already exist...

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