Jack Kruse aka The Quilt page 3

[Jac]

I agree Barb - it seems that force feeding that way would increase cortisol in itself, wouldn't it?? I'm skipping between 2 threads here, but I posted on the other one that I reckon it's important to eat as soon as you get hungry in the morning (or whenever) if you're already adapted to the paleo way of eating

[geostump]

Does it still make sense to eat 50g of protein first thing in the morning when you're hungry? I plan on getting the book, just trying to figure out when cause I think I may be leptin sensitive or whatever it is. I'm losing fat, seems to be dropping fat on top and legs faster than I am the midsection. Are there any other rules to eating for leptin sensitivity?

[Jac]

The protein, with fat, seems to turn off NPY and increase sensitivity to leptin, which allows the muscles to make good use of the available energy and the body to release unnecessary fat. So I do agree with eating a hefty dose of protein. Mastering leptin notes that later meals can have less protein, but this initial hit seems to flip a switch in the body. Quilt notes that it's a temporary thing to do, only for a couple of months max, to get your body into normal hormonal patterns again.

The only other consistent advice is to avoid snacking, eat with at least 5 hours between meals, don't eat in the evening so you go to bed with no eating for at least 3 hours prior - this latter advice is to maximise fat burning overnight and to restore normal levels of leptin etc.

If you're already losing fat, you're probably at least partially leptin sensitive - good for you!!

[geostump]

The protein, with fat, seems to turn off NPY and increase sensitivity to leptin, which allows the muscles to make good use of the available energy and the body to release unnecessary fat. So I do agree with eating a hefty dose of protein. Mastering leptin notes that later meals can have less protein, but this initial hit seems to flip a switch in the body. Quilt notes that it's a temporary thing to do, only for a couple of months max, to get your body into normal hormonal patterns again.

The only other consistent advice is to avoid snacking, eat with at least 5 hours between meals, don't eat in the evening so you go to bed with no eating for at least 3 hours prior - this latter advice is to maximise fat burning overnight and to restore normal levels of leptin etc.

If you're already losing fat, you're probably at least partially leptin sensitive - good for you!!

I don't eat dinner most nights until 730-8PM and typically in bed between9-10:30. I don't get home from work until 6:30PM. Even making something ahead of time sometimes doesn't necessarily mean I can eat by 7. Trying to figure out how I can make this work.

[Jac]

I don't eat dinner most nights until 730-8PM and typically in bed between9-10:30. I don't get home from work until 6:30PM. Even making something ahead of time sometimes doesn't necessarily mean I can eat by 7. Trying to figure out how I can make this work.

Oh, yes, I remember you posting about your crazy schedule before . If you're already losing, do you need to worry about it?? Your midsection might be the last to go, but eventually it will. I'm the same, really, losing bits on my legs and neck, waist is still the same truck tyre it's been for years.

[geostump]

I already don't snack much at all. Once a week if at all. I'm going to start eating more like this on Monday. At least let me enjoy my weekend. I have a baby shower tomorrow

[Digby]

DFH: does ML say why to have the 50g protein first thing? Is their rational same as Kruse?

[geostump]

Here's another thing I thought of. During my TOM I have anywhere between 1-3 days where I just cannot touch food at all period. I can't stomach it and food just nauseates me. How would I deal with this?

[DFH]

DFH: does ML say why to have the 50g protein first thing? Is their rational same as Kruse?

I hope it's OK to paste a few pages. I can't cut-and-paste.







Source: Amazon.com: Mastering Leptin: The Leptin Diet, Solving Obesity and Preventing Disease, Second Edition (9780972712118): Byron J. Richards, Mary Guignon Richards: Books

[DFH]

The protein explanation makes good sense. I'm not buying everything they say about which foods.

As far as all the IF fans on here, note what Dr Kruse said about it on Jimmy Moore's forum last night-

..IF is a terrible idea if youre leptin resistant. When youre sensitive it is perfectly fine. If you IF too early you can increase cell death via autophagy. Not good...
-Dr Kruse

Before the IF fans get out the torches and pitchforks, that quote comes from someone who has been there and done that.