I need about 8-9 hours. I was sleep deprived for years, due to bad habits. I've gone through periods of insomnia (acupuncture helped that) and now I usually fall asleep fine, but I have an issue with excessive REM sleep (vivid dreams all night) and too little slow wave sleep (which is when your body repairs itself and the brain rests) so sometimes I wake up feeling like I was hit by a truck, lol!
I do feel more alert in the mornings since getting on a dopamine support supplement, though 9it's like my brain turns on a lot faster). I think this might be an issue for a lot of non-morning people. Some other things that will make you feel like crap in the morning are low cortisol (you'll be more achy, too) and sleep apnea, which a lot of people have and don't know it.
You don't have to have be overweight to have apnea- most apnea is actually due to underdeveloped airways related to underdeveloped upper and lower jaws from generations of poor nutrition (think Weston Prices findings).
Hazyjane, have you tried having a sublingual methyl-B12 supplement (it just melts away under your tongue) in the evening before bedtime? With that and a dark bedroom, I started sleeping like a log when I first began it. One needs good B12 status to make melatonin.
I wouldn't mind the vivid dreams (they're pretty fun- I dreamed of shopping the other night and I can still remember the clothes!) except lack of slow wave sleep makes you feel so much less rested. I def. feel better on mornings that I can't remember my dreams clearly.
Last edited by hazyjane; 06-02-2011 at 07:40 PM.
Sleep oh where to begin!
A high carb diet triggered mania for years, but also insomnia to the point it was hard to work out which triggered the other. Spent probably my entire life sleep-deprived and it affects everything and particularly in my case mental health. However, the very low carb diet cured all the mental ill-health and no more mania but sleeping is still very hit and miss. I seem particularly sensitive to stress and when busy and under pressure find sleep harder.
Things that have helped - very low carb, dark room, ear plugs, eye blind, no computer after 8 pm (and with flux loaded), no caffiene, no eating later than 6pm, less stress, magnesium during the evening.
The biggest negative is the affect it has on appetite and fat storing - the brain senses tiredness and screams for carbs.
Seeking the natural way in a modern world ...
I used to love a cup of decaf coffee after my meal when we ate out, especially since I don't eat desserts, but so often there is even enough caffeine in the decaf (varies quite a lot--Starbucks as over 20% caffeine in their decaf), or the waiter forgets and gives regular; anyway after staying awake all night a couple nights ago, I decided the coffee has to go unless I make it at home.
I was a sugarbaby; meaning since I was born I was given lots of sugar, and ate lots of processed foods, especially sweets until I was into my thirties. Most people in the west were/are sugarbabies.
“How does today’s youngster educate his sense of taste? By submerging it in a sea of sugar from the time he gets up to the time he goes to bed.” W. Root and Richard DeRochemont, Eating in America (1976)