My Polyphasic Sleep Log page 5

[wiltondeportes]

Alright, I am unable to find the EXACT article. That's really unimportant though. This link here goes over some similar things I recalled reading.

Also on top of debunking polyphasic sleeping, I'd like to throw a link here that I found in my email archives when I was searching.
A single night of partial sleep deprivation induces insulin resistance in multiple metabolic pathways in healthy subjects.

Edit: A shorter, more summarized version of debunking this polyphasic business.

[wiltondeportes]

Just for clarification, when I say bi-phasic, I mean sleeping possibly not much after when the sun goes down, waking up for an hour or so (reading, eating, whatever), and then waking up almost around the crack of dawn.

I relate it to being healthier in many ways. One thing that I think is a must for this to work is getting lots of sunlight during the day. This seems to trigger correct patterns in your body. JUST personal experience and opinion though.

I realize this doesn't work everywhere. In Alaska for example, I would be screwed. I think you might hypothesize that sleeping patterns can be somewhat dictated by where you live on Earth? (in other words, length of daylight and temperature)

[Primal Toad]

The best way to learn whether or not something works is to experiment. That is what I am doing. I am young and have the chance to experiment a little. I chose polyphasic sleep as my first experiment. This is my log and I will give it at least 2 weeks.

I am not on any set schedule either. i am simply going to take 1-3 naps per day and then record the times I go to bed and wake up. I have always slept like a baby so I will record the times when I don't. I am also usually full of energy. I will record the times when I feel sleepy.

Again, whats nice about taking 20 minute naps is the dreaming experience. I NEVER EVER remember my dreams at night. I tihnk this is because I sleep so damn well. I dream like crazy during my 20 minute naps and its awesome. Exhilarating.

I only managed to get in 1 nap today so it will be interesting to see when I wake up tomorrow. Its now 1:15 and I will be headed to bed in about 10 minutes. I'll probably wake up between 6 and 7.

[catzrin]

One of my friends lived polyphasic for about three months. He retains the ability to sleep anywhere.

He said the transition phase was hell but once you were through it it was good. He gave up because he was doing a lot of really hardcore karate and if you're continually moving around (even if you're just sitting reading), your body never has time to recover from that. I tried it for a couple of days, not long enough for it to get really bad but I got scared about messing up some bit of my brain that understood when it was tired and when it was time to wake up, so I decided to leave it.

[wiltondeportes]

Fair enough Mr. Primal Toad. It's not like you have to pass anything you do by me. I'm just trying to help you out. Taking verbatim from that my third link in my previous post as well as the research I am currently unable to find, there is not ONE proven case of a person who sleeps polyphasically like you are suggesting. It's one thing if that's what you body 'asks' you to do (you feel tired frequently, so you just nap and that works for you), but it's a whole another thing if you think it's going to give you more awake time in your day. It will probably put great stress on your body which does the reverse of what you are attempting to do: you want to essentially live longer by being awake more, but stress will rob you of that health and longetivity. Sleep is a valuable time of the day that recharges creativity and mind sharpness. It's not something you can avoid like Edison claimed to have done. Again, do what you want. I like your willingness to try stuff, but I don't believe sleep is something to mess with. Also if we looked at it with the primal microscope, I think it would be safe to say that Grok would not have been a 1 hour napper four times a day.

[Kelda]

Also on top of debunking polyphasic sleeping, I'd like to throw a link here that I found in my email archives when I was searching.
A single night of partial sleep deprivation induces insulin resistance in multiple metabolic pathways in healthy subjects.


Plus one on this link - I'm living proof! And, you combine that with a high carb, disordered athlete vegetarian diet and you get bipolar disorder, and skinny fat, and starving hungry ...

[Primal Toad]

Fair enough Mr. Primal Toad. It's not like you have to pass anything you do by me. I'm just trying to help you out. Taking verbatim from that my third link in my previous post as well as the research I am currently unable to find, there is not ONE proven case of a person who sleeps polyphasically like you are suggesting. It's one thing if that's what you body 'asks' you to do (you feel tired frequently, so you just nap and that works for you), but it's a whole another thing if you think it's going to give you more awake time in your day. It will probably put great stress on your body which does the reverse of what you are attempting to do: you want to essentially live longer by being awake more, but stress will rob you of that health and longetivity. Sleep is a valuable time of the day that recharges creativity and mind sharpness. It's not something you can avoid like Edison claimed to have done. Again, do what you want. I like your willingness to try stuff, but I don't believe sleep is something to mess with. Also if we looked at it with the primal microscope, I think it would be safe to say that Grok would not have been a 1 hour napper four times a day.

I am getting the impression that you are not fully aware of what I am doing.

I am taking 1-2 timed 20 minute naps during the day. I then go to bed when I am tired which has been later - around midnight. I then wake up when I wake up. That's it.

Nothing really different from normal sleeping. I am not on some regimented schedule and I don't set an alarm clock. I only set a timer for my nap so I don't doze off for an hour or so.

Now, I really wonder, what do you think about my "experiment?"

[Primal Toad]

Also on top of debunking polyphasic sleeping, I'd like to throw a link here that I found in my email archives when I was searching.
A single night of partial sleep deprivation induces insulin resistance in multiple metabolic pathways in healthy subjects.


Plus one on this link - I'm living proof! And, you combine that with a high carb, disordered athlete vegetarian diet and you get bipolar disorder, and skinny fat, and starving hungry ...

Again, I think some of you are not understanding what I am doing. Read my previous post in this thread please and then tell me what you think. I love all of your comments but need to bud in when it seems like some are not getting it.

[Primal Toad]

One more thing...

There are plenty of people that sleep around 5 or 6 hours without a nap. I recall someone here sleeps 5 hours and feels awesome everyday. I am believing I will need less sleep at night by taking 1-2 20 minute naps during the day but only time will tell. I only wake up when I wake up and feel rested.

Thoughts?

[wiltondeportes]

Also on top of debunking polyphasic sleeping, I'd like to throw a link here that I found in my email archives when I was searching.
A single night of partial sleep deprivation induces insulin resistance in multiple metabolic pathways in healthy subjects.

Plus one on this link - I'm living proof! And, you combine that with a high carb, disordered athlete vegetarian diet and you get bipolar disorder, and skinny fat, and starving hungry ...

Well, I could sort of add +2 to it. Not me personally, but a family friend. He's around 55. Physically, he's not perfect but is in excellent shape internally. I mean that his heart, lungs, etc have been tested to be really great. Anyways, he came down with Type 2 Diabetes about 5 or so months ago. He is now a couple weeks from being completely diabetic free according to his doctor. He did not take drugs or ANYTHING. He read a lot of books about the issue, and then made 2 changes. One was a change in diet: he tells me he didn't realize the damage fructose did and thought all fruits were healthy. He'd gorge them on occasion. Two was he retired from his job: he worked nightshift for maybe 15-20 years at a local prison. He would go 24+ hours without sleeping often because they were shorthanded at work or he simply wanted to do other things during the day. He'd often take a 2-3 hour nap and go back at it. Anyways, he retired and is not getting atleast 6-7 hours a night. I realize this is an extreme example, but the fact that he cured (crosses finger...almost there) himself against doctor's advice is pretty extreme too.