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    Blood work.

    Just got back from reviewing lab results, the doctor freaked. Wanted to put me on statins right away but I refused and told her I'd do some research and get back to her about what to do. Got the whole spiel about switching to margarine, avoiding animal fat, yada yada. She was also concerned about my platelet count and some other things. WBC, ABSOLUTE GRAN. and ABSOLUTE LYMPHS are all below the normal range. Not really sure what any of that means, but she referred me to a hematologist. Blood pressure was good.

    Scary thing is, I've been getting some pretty bad chest pains and tightness (not disabling but not at all ignorable) that I haven't been able to find a cause for (don't think it's anxiety), and even using the Iranian equation and checking all my ratios and everything, my cholesterol still doesn't look that great. I'm only 18 though so I don't really know what to make of it all. I can't really go by how I feel because I feel like shit and always have.

    Anyways, some general info...

    Age: 18

    Diet: Primal since September of last year, so about 8 months now. Fairly strict, struggling with binge eating so I have the occasional isolated lapse but nothing that should screw me up too much. I eat two meals a day, I average 50-65% of daily calories from fat (butter, olive oil, eggs, meat, avacado) and 10-20% from carbs.
    Example meals (I'm not the best cook):
    1 2 3 4 5

    Supplements:
    Vitamin D3 10,000 I.U. daily
    magnesium 100mg twice per day
    copper 2.5mg daily (just started this a couple weeks ago)
    betaine HCL 1200mg with each meal

    And the numbers...

    TOTAL: 347
    TRIGLYCERIDE: 77
    HDL: 55
    LDL: 277

    The other stuff she was worried about...

    WBC: 3.2
    PLATELET COUNT: 114
    ABSOLUTE GRAN.: 1.7
    ABSOLUTE LYMPHS: 1.1

    And if my calculations are correct, here are the ratios using the Iranian equation (I'd appreciate it if somebody could double check this for me)...

    Total/HDL: 6.3
    Trig/HDL: 1.4
    LDL/HDL: 4.41

    I finished a really large meal at about 11:30 the night before the blood work as I was busy and hadn't eaten yet that day. The blood was taken at about 9:30 A.M. They told me not to eat after midnight, but is 10 hours on the tail end of a really big meal enough time fasting? I've heard the ideal time is 12 hours. Could this have messed with the results at all?

    So yeah... what do?
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    I'm no help, just wanted to put my arm around your shoulders & say I got the same thing today. "Blah, blah, blah, saturated fat. Blah, blah, blah, leaner cuts". Luckily, I feel like my doc trusts my judgement, and she agreed to let me adjust my diet over the summer a bit, to see if I can get that LDL down a bit and more regulated.
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    A big meal eaten too late can mess up the results but whether or not that's the case, it's the chest pains I'd be worried about. Can you see a cardiologist? Have a stress test?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Bork Bork View Post
    I'm no help, just wanted to put my arm around your shoulders & say I got the same thing today. "Blah, blah, blah, saturated fat. Blah, blah, blah, leaner cuts". Luckily, I feel like my doc trusts my judgement, and she agreed to let me adjust my diet over the summer a bit, to see if I can get that LDL down a bit and more regulated.
    My doctor was not the least bit trusting, she acted like I knew nothing and was the biggest fool in the world for eating so much butter (I told her I go through as much as a pound a week sometimes). She started explaining everything to me like I was a toddler, and when I told her I was well-versed on nutrition and even tried to get into some of the science behind why I eat the way I do she just kind of blew me off and was like NOPE WRONG YOU'RE DESTROYING YOUR ARTERIES. My mom was in the room too so they were like a little CW tag team. I could hardly get a word in edge-wise, they had already held an extensive discussion about the medication they wanted me on and the doctor was about to write out a prescription before I finally got a chance to speak up and tell her it wasn't happening. :\

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShannonCC View Post
    A big meal eaten too late can mess up the results but whether or not that's the case, it's the chest pains I'd be worried about. Can you see a cardiologist? Have a stress test?
    Haven't done a stress test, but I had an EKG and it was normal. I've had all kinds of tests and nothing has come of them. The pains aren't related to stress on my heart I don't think. Like, they don't get worse when I exercise, they're just constantly there at varying degrees. Everybody tells me it's anxiety or indigestion and then they send me on my way but I really don't think that's the case.
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    i didn't notice if you had your thyroid tested. a messed up thyroid can cause wacked out cholesterol. it could also explain chest pains. just a thought.

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    some people have posted about chest pains due to not enough copper intake (which can also lead to high LDL levels i believe), but you are already taking a supplement so i wonder if it will just take some time to 'kick in.' if you do a forum search about it you may find more info; stabby has posted about it a lot iirc. here's a related article: Whole Health Source: Copper and Cardiovascular Disease

    was your LDL calculated or measured?

    edit: here's another article - http://perfecthealthdiet.com/?p=2547

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    I'm really sorry you had this experience! What is your height/weight? You said you always feel like crap - could you elaborate on that? It could be that something else is going on. I certainly feel for you. 18 is too young for statins!

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    Have you had your gallbladder checked out? I was having crazy constant chest pain when it acted up after eating high fat foods. The pain could be a dull ache, or a constant sharp stabbing. ER doctors kept asking me if I've ever had a heart attack, and they ran two EKGs before some lady in the waiting suggested it was my gallbladder.

    I started having gallbladder attacks at the age of 16 (yay for being crazy overweight and unhealthy all my life)- and finally was diagnosed at 22. Check it out, to at least rule it out. Good luck with finding out what's happening in your body.

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    I would consider asking for a retest with a longer time between a reasonable meal, and the test. It could affect the results I think. Whenever I got bad blood work back, my doctor would tell me to clean up my eating for a week, then come back for retests. Things usually wound up much closer to normal.

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