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    5 to 9 of a total of 16 Egyptian mummies that had cardiac tissue showed evidence of atherosclerosis. These mummies date from 1981 BC to 334 AD.


    I was shocked that the scientists continue to follow conventional wisdom:
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    "it should be noted that in general, the individuals who had the means to be mummified were generally of higher socioeconomic status," Miyamoto added. All of the 16 mummies whose identities could be determined were of high social status, generally serving in the court of the pharaoh or as priests or priestesses. Although the diet of any one mummy could not be determined, eating meat in the form of cattle, ducks and geese was not uncommon during these times.

    So it may be that some of them in life maintained some of these lifestyle factors that we think of as linked with atherosclerosis," Miyamoto said.
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    But wait a second. Didn’t the Egyptians practically invent agriculture, especially that of grain? I guess that’s too far of a scientific leap.


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    Grain was a staple of their diet, yes.

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    Lessee, from http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/farm.htm we find that "Bread and beer were the chief components of the Egyptians’ daily diet, eventually even being depicted as the first offering in the funerary offering formula, or hetep di nisu. Though there are several words in the ancient Egyptian language for grain, one term in particular graphically describes the significance of grain in the life of the people. This word was ankhet, describing corn as "that which gives life."


    Granted, they are talking about the peasants and the corn is probably barley. As in Barleycorn. But as shown above, grain was so important that it was the chief offering to their gods.


    And here http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/ancient...ealth_01.shtml


    "Despite the fairly wide range of foodstuffs, cereals, fruits, vegetables, milk and meat produced by the ancient Egyptians, not everybody would have had adequate nutrition. There is evidence from the bodies of ancient Egyptians, retrieved from their graves, that some people suffered nutritional deficiencies."


    Nutritional deficiencies... might it be that they ate too many grains and not enough of the other things? The site mentions that skeletal evidence of iron deficiency is common on ancient Egyptian skeletons. They give two potential causes: Parsites, and eating too much cereal at the expense of meat. There goes the idea that the Egyptian&#39;s atherosclerosis was because of too much meat.


    They also suffered arthritis and dental problems, both of which are caused or exacerbated by grain consumption, though they the site does put foward the possibility of too much sand in the ground grain. My bet is that it was both. On top of this, the ancient Egyptians suffered leprosy, tumours, polio, and cleft palates.

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    They suffered from diabetes, too, especially the upper classes. This profiles one of Egyt&#39;s few women pharoahs. She&#39;s been CAT scanned and had DNA testing. Results - she had CHD, diabetes and cancer.


    http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/27/wo...t/27mummy.html


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    While "corn" as loosely translated in Biblical texts could mean any grain, there&#39;s a good chance it was eincorn or perhaps spelt. Sort of forerunners to the "better" grains.


    What we in the US call corn and most of the world calls maize was never available to the good folks of the Old World, of course.


    A grain is a grain is a grain....


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    They were grain eaters, especially the upper class. The CW is astounding from those scientists.


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    Eades&#39; talk about this in Protein Power (13-14 years ago?) But the Eades got the causality (grains) right. Worth going back for a re-read of that chapter in "Protein Power"


    It&#39;s as if the Egyptian "upper class" had sports bars selling beer and chips fried in veggie oils...


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    The upper class were also fat, in addition to having bad teeth. Many of the mummies have excess folds of saggy abdominal skin, indicating they were obese.


    I&#39;ve also read that artistic renditions were not actually how they looked -- it was how the idealized version of them would have looked.


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    Exactly, go_ginger_go! Just like now, in supermarket isles, many obese shoppers read about the diet and sex secrets of slim super stars on the cover of Cosmo and US, and People magazines!


    Eades talk about that a bit too, and the Egyptians were METICULOUS records keepers (grain crops, diet, bread making, beer making all recorded) coupled with not just skeletal remains, but soft tissue from mummifications puts a lot together that grains/carbs centered diets are bad for humans.


    Yet the CW folks cry out "animal flesh" took down the Egyptians....


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