The complication is that there are many factors that affect calories out. In a healthy metabolism the body isn't defending its fat stores therefore simply dropping calories will allow fat to be metabolized.... and usually if there is excess fat in this case the body will reduce appetite to facilitate this (see, same calories out, less in). In a deranged metabolism the body resists weight loss for any number of reasons (toxicity, malnutrition, pathogens, etc) and will actively reduce the metabolic rate. This is why sufferers of hypothyroid have a lower body temperature, feel sluggish, etc (same calories in, less calories out).
I am someone who knows, from experience, that you can eat 1000 calories a day, put 5-10 miles a day on the treadmill, run after 3 kids (including twins) maintain 1/3 of an acre, etc and still gain weight. My proof-- after getting adequately treated, I now eat at least 1600 calories/day, put less time-at a slower pace-on the treadmill, no longer run after the kids, and the 1/3 acre yard was sold 3 years ago, yet I've lost 60+ pounds.
That shouldn't be humanly possible if cals in/cals out is the foundation for weight management.
Just because we need "more" calories to gain weight, doesn't mean we will automatically get fat by taking in more calories per day. I'm not one to point people to GCBC, say read it, and consider that the end of the discussion... however the chapter about paradoxes discusses this, and if nothing else its very interesting. Some sedentary people increase their intake to from 2,000 to 10,000 cals/day and only gain 1Lbs, while others gain 30Lbs.
On death's door? I think not - I have a gluten intolerance and a lactose intolerance and I had chronic diarrhea for years, which led to vitamin and mineral deficiencies, and I was supporting a weight of 140 lbs on around 3000 calories a day, with very sedentary activity. Honestly, nearly half of my food value was going in the toilet, and you could see it was undigested.
I eat maybe half of that now. It is far easier than you think to eat food and not digest it. All I need to do is drink a glass of milk and I am right there again.
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replace CICO with nutrition in nutrition used.... meaning, it is DIFFERENT for everyone. some people have different needs, diseases, different everything. some people are pale with white eyes and albino....some people tan like a mother f*cker....some people need more vita d, more zinc, more omega 3....
when you figure out your nutrition needs in your body starts trusting and realizing your nutrition uses within your body...metabolism speeds up, stuff regulates
the problem is when people think of CICO they are on an adventure to see how much they can possibly eat, or how much changing they can do to be 'able' to eat more...this misses the ENTIRE point of nutrition. thinking this way is...sick, wrong, unhealthy...and as stephen put recently, your using food as an automatic reward stimulant, again totally wrong.3
this concept annoys me to no end its so flippin ridiculous
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To all those posting here who say they are eating more than they used to but not gaining and/or losing weight – YOU ARE STILL EXPENDING MORE ENERGY (or otherwise removing mass) THAN YOU TAKE IN. JUST AS YOU CANNOT GAIN MASS WITHOUT ADDING MASS, YOU CANNOT LOSE MASS WITHOUT TAKING AWAY MASS. Sorry for the shouting but this is silly. The logical conclusion of your position is that you could manipulate hormones and starvation wouldn’t happen.