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    Decided to start writing a blog about this issue of not just sugar addiction, but sweet taste (aka artificial sweetners) issues. I found lots of people on MDA and other places who really struggle with being extremely sensitive to all sweet, carbs, and even sweet tastes. I am now frustrated not just by trying to keep an eye out for sugars, but all sweeteners; between them they are just about everywhere. All the more reason for being in control of one's food. It's good I like to cook.
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    Been searching this site and finding loads of good posts on sugar problems, carbs, and artificial sweeteners. I've cut out everything that doesn't come in a natural package, like a berry or peach.
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    “How does today’s youngster educate his sense of taste? By submerging it in a sea of sugar from the time he gets up to the time he goes to bed.” W. Root and Richard DeRochemont, Eating in America (1976)

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    Yet another study on the negative effects of artificial sweeteners: Diet drink consumers 'put on more weight' - Telegraph

    After getting off all sugar and a-sweeteners, I really am not missing them. It's like I was driving down one road, and took a turn onto a much better one.
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    “How does today’s youngster educate his sense of taste? By submerging it in a sea of sugar from the time he gets up to the time he goes to bed.” W. Root and Richard DeRochemont, Eating in America (1976)

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    Yep - I hear ya!

    Hi Sugar Baby - I just joined the forum - although my wife of 29 years has educated me to Paleo over the last 6 months or so. I am 58 and was 226 lbs - 6ft, 1/2 in. We observed somewhat paleo during this past Lent and I lost 10 pounds in 6 weeks! Very little to no carbs and no alcohol at all!!!! The alcohol - wine mostly - really makes a difference!!!
    I've finally got myself to drinking coffee without any sugar or sweetener of any kind - although I like milk in it!
    Little by little - working on it - I want to reach 210 before the end of the year at least!! Ultimately, by next Easter (we'll have Lent again for more motivation) I will be at 200!!!

    Maintaining is the hardest!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by yablokovich View Post
    Hi Sugar Baby - I just joined the forum - although my wife of 29 years has educated me to Paleo over the last 6 months or so. I am 58 and was 226 lbs - 6ft, 1/2 in. We observed somewhat paleo during this past Lent and I lost 10 pounds in 6 weeks! Very little to no carbs and no alcohol at all!!!! The alcohol - wine mostly - really makes a difference!!!
    I've finally got myself to drinking coffee without any sugar or sweetener of any kind - although I like milk in it!
    Little by little - working on it - I want to reach 210 before the end of the year at least!! Ultimately, by next Easter (we'll have Lent again for more motivation) I will be at 200!!!

    Maintaining is the hardest!!!
    You can do it! My spouse found stopping his evening 2-3 glasses of wine helped a lot; he dropped 35lbs in four months, no grains/bread, mostly meat, eggs, greens, one serving fruit a day.
    This time, like all times, is a very good one, if we but know what to do with it. Ralph Waldo Emerson

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    Hi SugarBaby, I just found this thread of yours. I'm an addict too. I've cut sugar out so many times. This present episode of sugarfree/sweetfree will have a 3 week anniversary on Tuesday, the 5th. I am gluten and grain free, have only low sugar fruits and only about once a week. I understand from NeuroSurg that any fruit will stop fat burning so I'm okay with completely quitting fruit for now. I also really cut out the high sugar vegs too. They keep coming back but they're off again. That will help minimize cravings.

    I'm just cutting back to a severe place for now. Feeling so much better I don't want to lose that. I've been through this before and got too self confident. Happens every time I get thin and healthy. I think I'm entitled to it.

    Oh, yes, I'm back off alcohol too, Digby.

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    Fruit is still a gateway drug for me, so I stick with fruit I don't like. So I eat mangoes, green apples and the occasional melon. Technically, I think my avocados and zucchini are probably fruit, too, but they're greens so that's how I use them on my plate. But if I have a peach or strawberry, or even if I smell bananas, I immediately lose my "no to sugar" field!

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    i have a similar problem with sugar, and i slip into phases where even miniscule amounts trigger cravings. as much as i adore fruit, even THAT sets me off lately. i've had to stop eating it - for now - but hopefully i'll be able to eat it again soon.

    i read a post by dr. eades recently that mentions using 5-hydroxytryptophan (5-HTP) supplements to stop carb cravings, especially those that occur late afternoon/evening. FWIW, his post is for people trying to go low-carb, so it doesn't apply to everyone...but his supplement recommendations (towards the bottom of the post) seem reasonable. i haven't tried it myself, but there's bound to be a post on these forums about it, so i'd be curious to see if it actually works or if there are any negative effect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loco Moco View Post
    i have a similar problem with sugar, and i slip into phases where even miniscule amounts trigger cravings. as much as i adore fruit, even THAT sets me off lately. i've had to stop eating it - for now - but hopefully i'll be able to eat it again soon.

    i read a post by dr. eades recently that mentions using 5-hydroxytryptophan (5-HTP) supplements to stop carb cravings, especially those that occur late afternoon/evening. FWIW, his post is for people trying to go low-carb, so it doesn't apply to everyone...but his supplement recommendations (towards the bottom of the post) seem reasonable. i haven't tried it myself, but there's bound to be a post on these forums about it, so i'd be curious to see if it actually works or if there are any negative effect.
    I use 5http but can't say for sure if it helps or not, but it's good for sleep and other things.

    Quote Originally Posted by Knifegill View Post
    Fruit is still a gateway drug for me, so I stick with fruit I don't like. So I eat mangoes, green apples and the occasional melon. Technically, I think my avocados and zucchini are probably fruit, too, but they're greens so that's how I use them on my plate. But if I have a peach or strawberry, or even if I smell bananas, I immediately lose my "no to sugar" field!
    Fruit is losing it's glossy reputation. Aside from low sugar berries, the rare apple, I can't do fruit without cravings starting. Fructose is worse than sucrose.

    Quote Originally Posted by Violette View Post
    Hi SugarBaby, I just found this thread of yours. I'm an addict too. I've cut sugar out so many times. This present episode of sugarfree/sweetfree will have a 3 week anniversary on Tuesday, the 5th. I am gluten and grain free, have only low sugar fruits and only about once a week. I understand from NeuroSurg that any fruit will stop fat burning so I'm okay with completely quitting fruit for now. I also really cut out the high sugar vegs too. They keep coming back but they're off again. That will help minimize cravings.

    I'm just cutting back to a severe place for now. Feeling so much better I don't want to lose that. I've been through this before and got too self confident. Happens every time I get thin and healthy. I think I'm entitled to it.

    Oh, yes, I'm back off alcohol too, Digby.
    Im happy for people who can get away with some, but I think in the long run, we sugaraholics who get off all sweet will be the real winners. There's a spectrum and some of are out on the far reaches of sensitivity. C'est la vie!

    Quote Originally Posted by yablokovich View Post
    Hi Sugar Baby - I just joined the forum - although my wife of 29 years has educated me to Paleo over the last 6 months or so. I am 58 and was 226 lbs - 6ft, 1/2 in. We observed somewhat paleo during this past Lent and I lost 10 pounds in 6 weeks! Very little to no carbs and no alcohol at all!!!! The alcohol - wine mostly - really makes a difference!!!
    I've finally got myself to drinking coffee without any sugar or sweetener of any kind - although I like milk in it!
    Little by little - working on it - I want to reach 210 before the end of the year at least!! Ultimately, by next Easter (we'll have Lent again for more motivation) I will be at 200!!!

    Maintaining is the hardest!!!
    Great going! Good to have that marker to work towards. I think keeping even a basic journal, recording how you felt, how you feel now, etc, goes a long way in helping a person keep on track. Plus, you know if you don't you will wind up back where you started, and that's to be avoided at all costs. Good luck!
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    I was a sugarbaby; meaning since I was born I was given lots of sugar, and ate lots of processed foods, especially sweets until I was into my thirties. Most people in the west were/are sugarbabies.

    “How does today’s youngster educate his sense of taste? By submerging it in a sea of sugar from the time he gets up to the time he goes to bed.” W. Root and Richard DeRochemont, Eating in America (1976)

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    I've been reminded by several things lately that the addiction component of sugars/sweets/starches, while uncomfortable to accept, is real nonetheless. Sugars, sweet tastes, starches (sugar to the body) all affect that same part of the brain that alcohol, cocaine, methamphetamine, etc, trigger. It's no accident that many recovering alcoholics turn to dense sweets as a substitute. Addiction simply means you can't let something alone, you have to have it, and that craving overwhelms logic, reason, the thinking part of the brain. How many of us have eaten a big mess of sugary foods and regretted it within two minutes? It's like the leptin docs keep telling us, the whole system gets out of whack, and the brain is telling us we MUST have the sugar, or drug, or booze, in a misguided message of survival which comes from our evolution when none of this stuff was around. So I look at sugar now the way I think about alcohol (sadly have a major alcoholic in my wider family, and know how that destroys families), don't need it, don't want it, and it is far less a sacrifice than just a health management issue.

    Happy 4th of July to those in the states.
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    I was a sugarbaby; meaning since I was born I was given lots of sugar, and ate lots of processed foods, especially sweets until I was into my thirties. Most people in the west were/are sugarbabies.

    “How does today’s youngster educate his sense of taste? By submerging it in a sea of sugar from the time he gets up to the time he goes to bed.” W. Root and Richard DeRochemont, Eating in America (1976)

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