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also i really don't think we can consider oprah or joy behar 'feminazis,' lol. a lot of people find them annoying, but they're certainly not extreme in their political thinking.
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There is another aspect of PUA that is completely missed here. Which is the more recent Natural. I believe it has more to do with correcting ones own inner issues and not using any sort of game at all. I also think if you don't fall into the trap of interviewing or trying to impress when talking with some you think is attractive you will have more success.
Well I didn't perceive this discussion to be about how to be a pickup artist, but rather about gender roles and whether "alpha males" play a positive or negative role in relationships and society in general. We haven't at all talked about using routines or that sort of thing which is generally referred to as "game".
The inner issues you speak of generally belong to the stereotype "nice guys" = doormat: Insecurities about themselves, fear of women, fear of rejection, lacking a wide repertoire of social skills etc. These things need to be overcome no matter what, even when using regular routines your confidence will increase because you feel prepared andas if you are in control, and at the same time actually going out there and making attempts at women helps reduce fears while building the necessary social skills. Trying to impress when talking doesn't feel like an underlying issue to me, but rather a result of insecurities about oneself making you try to overcompensate.
It's amazing how women just can't stay away - I mean it IS a primal thread for men. Anyways consider this. These women at the gym are doing you a favor. It's a filtering process. They are informing you what they think of you (and men in general) and what your role is in that relationship. If they have men in their lives, don't feel sorry for them. The best Hells are self made.