I like that, I really do.
Just wrote this in my blog and wanted to share (contains religious references, btw)
Recently I got into a debate with a close friend, who is concerned for my health, over my Primal Blueprint lifestyle. We talked about how in the scriptures, grain is ordained as the staff of life for man, and meat should be eaten sparingly. Honestly, this upset me, as I felt like I had been disobedient to the Lord somehow. I argued that eating the foods the Lord provided here on Earth was the way to go. That he put both flora and fauna on the planet to nourish and strengthen us. And what about those people with autoimmune disorders who can't have grains like those with Celiac's? She said "Yeah, but you're not one of those".
So later I talked it over with both my husband & my brother in law. I do have a metabolic condition (diabetes) that makes life without grains a healthier choice. Additionally, the grains that Joseph Smith ate when the Word of Wisdom was written are not the same as they are today. If people wanted processed grain, they went out to the field, harvested it, brought it home, and smashed it up by themselves. These days it's done for us, run through a machine, combined with a bunch of CRAP, and then force fed to us. There's a clear difference there.
I think it is more important to live healthy so we can be happy, because the Lord knows if we're happy, we'll be more focused on His plan and returning home to Him. "Ordained for man" does not mean you're required to do something. Ordained means it's there if you need it. It's APPROVED. A covenant, on the other hand, is a promise one makes between themselves and the Lord. I don't remember ever making a covenant with the Lord to eat grain and avoid the creatures he provided for my sustenance. I do, however, remember making covenants to harken to the counsel of my husband, dedicate my time and talents to the service of others, and take care of my body and its needs so that it can be a worthy temple to house the Holy Spirit.
Meat and fat is delicious, my friends, embrace it! The Lord's design on all creations is without flaw and unquestionable. He provided animals, fruits, vegetables, and so on, for our sustenance. Why, then, would he put fat and meat on animal if it were not to be exploited to our benefit? I know he put grains on earth, too... but he also put weeds down here to quelch out the living. I think of grain as a weed. If it makes me weak and wither, surely I should avoid it. I feel stronger and healthier without it. I wish everyone would view grain as a weed, to try Paleo & Primal and just see how they FEEL. Grain would not be the king of foods so much anymore. It would no longer be the staff of life, but more the serpent that slithers up and around it, choking out what would be a total healing of mankind.
I like that, I really do.
My journal: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread62655.html
Remember, also, that a staff is a tool that props you up when you're weak and helps you cope.
These were early agrarian societies back then. Yeah, grains are going to be exceptionally important.
I'm admittedly not familiar with the Words of Wisdom, but only with the Protestant Old and New Testaments.
I can't think of any place in there where God encourages us to eat sparingly of meat. The closest I can think of is in Daniel, where the captive Hebrews chose not to eat the decadent food of their captors but to eat only pulses, legumes and vegetables and ended up healthier.
Can you point me to any references in the OT or NT, or do such exist only in Joseph Smith's writings?
Note: I'm not here for spiritual debate. The instant this thread goes that way, I'll not read it any more.
No prob! It's in the Book of Mormon, under the Word of Wisdom.
Here's basically what my friend & I were arguing about:
Doctrine & Covenants, chapter 89
12Yea, aflesh also of bbeasts and of the fowls of the air, I, the Lord, have ordained for the use of man with thanksgiving; nevertheless they are to be used csparingly;
13And it is pleasing unto me that they should not be aused, only in times of winter, or of cold, or bfamine.
14All agrain is ordained for the use of man and of beasts, to be the staff of life, not only for man but for the beasts of the field, and the fowls of heaven, and all wild animals that run or creep on the earth;
15And athese hath God made for the use of man only in times of famine and excess of hunger.
16All grain is good for the afood of man; as also the bfruit of the vine; that which yieldeth fruit, whether in the ground or above the ground—
17Nevertheless, wheat for man, and corn for the ox, and oats for the horse, and rye for the fowls and for swine, and for all beasts of the field, and barley for all useful animals, and for mild drinks, as also other grain.
18And all saints who remember to keep and do these sayings, walking in obedience to the commandments, ashall receive bhealth in their navel and marrow to their bones;
There's more to it, like avoiding tobacco and strong drink, but that's the gist.
It's passages like that that make me wonder what is the word of God and what just makes sense at the time. Not trying to start a debate nor do I expect an answer, but I do wonder if some texts would read "Verily I say unto you that man should not eat the flesh of the swine at this time for the Lord thy God will not bestow refrigeration unto ye until such time as the icebox commeth" if writting with some prophesy.
I kind of picture a bunch of religous types sitting around saying, "People are sick again? Yeah, after eating the <whatever>. Yeah, it is getting ridiculous I agree. Huh? God said not to eat it huh? Where'd you hea...oh, burning bush? Classic. Lets run with that."
I'm a little cynical.
Good post though. It is interesting to see different thoughts at work. Personally I think God put meat here for us to enjoy. Nicely put.
"I need large pieces of dead cow to be happy." - skink531
"You truly are delusional and other forms of insanity apply go you. You aren't even interesting." - oceangrl
God hates mormons anyway, so don't worry about the diet.