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    This response is assuming (as stated in your question) that the cronic infections you suffer from are sinus infections? If they are then the following applies....if not, then just disregard

    I was a recent sufferer from cronic sinus infections and "cold-like" allergy attacks. I began allergy immunotherapy drops and voila! problem solved. That having been said, what works best for me is this:

    1. NielMed sinus rinse BOTTLE (very very very easy to use, unlike netti pots!) twice to three times a day ALWAYS even when symptoms disappear, and maybe more if having an "infection" flare up
    2. Using a nasal passage/sinus anti-inflammatory (my doc gave me a steroid inhaler meant for lungs, which I shoot up my nose instead - instant relief from post-nasal drip and even "cold-like" sneezing/snot. I only use it when necessary during peak allergy times). See if your doc will prescribe one for flare-ups. They are a life saver for me!
    3. Taking an allergy pill, drinking it with a whole glass of cold water. Follow up with another glass 30 minutes later.
    4. Lightly coat the lower nasal passages with neosporin every night before bed when in an flare up. I don't know why this works, but it does. Thanks Doc. Don't work the q-tip up very far into your nasal passage, it isn't necessary.
    5. Do NOT take decongestants. They are addicting to your sinuses and cause re-bound symptoms. Also this is the case with many of the nasal allergy sprays on the market.
    6. If you are allergic to an animal, don't sleep with it. And either way wash all your bedding in hot water and dry on high heat. Get a mattress protector that is washable and do so frequently. Dust your room, vaccuum under the bed and in your room. Do the cleaning before changing the bedding so dust in the air when settling will get trapped in dirty sheets and you can wash it out. Open the window in your room for an hour or so, even if its cold outside.

    Also, is there anything in specific that makes you think it is an infection? Green mucus does not always mean infection, just "old" snot that is growing bacteria. Get rid of the problem (snot) and *usually* there isn't a lingering infection. At least in my climate, allergy season is already in full swing, despite the snow and occasional freezing at night still.

    Another thought, if only primal for 18 days, this WILL get better with time. Your body is still adjusting. AND its stressful just making the change to eating/living primal again. Don't quit this time!
    Good luck!

    P.S. If this is reoccuring, see an allergy/asthma specialist. They are your best resource, since *most* cases of cronic sinusitis are caused by allergies. Get tested, find out what you are allergic to. It isn't cheap, but the immunotherapy works. Going primal also works, but I find since I actually am much more allergic to dust and my cat than the outdoors, my allergies are year round. And no amount of primal alleviates all my allergy symptoms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lynna View Post
    Dairy does not increase mucus in the body. Does milk make mucus worse? - Health & Wellbeing
    from the same article:

    ...taking people, especially children, off dairy products in the long term can have serious nutritional consequences and is inadvisable.
    not sure I am one to trust everything in there as omnicient. After I gave up milk my mucus and congestion problems were eliminated. Might not be that way for everyone though?
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    my 2cents would be allergies... I've have horrible allergies w/sinus "infection like" symptoms for about 2 weeks now... here in NoVA the trees are FORNICATING like the worlds going to end tomorrow! btwn the maples, dogwoods, cherry, apple, crab apple, oak and fracking "Tree of Heaven" (invasive species) OMG my sinuses are killing me...

    have you tried doing neti pot rinses?

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    Cold temperatures don't cause illness, but hot temperatures kill viruses (which is why your body will run a fever).

    Seasonal allergies could be causing the problem.

    What is the humidity level in your house? If it's less than 40% you should get a humidifier. Below that and your sinuses will dry out, rather than flushing out the sickness. Decongestants will cause the same problem. I used to take Mucinex to encourage mucus flow if nothing else was working.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shijin13 View Post
    my 2cents would be allergies... I've have horrible allergies w/sinus "infection like" symptoms for about 2 weeks now... here in NoVA the trees are FORNICATING like the worlds going to end tomorrow! btwn the maples, dogwoods, cherry, apple, crab apple, oak and fracking "Tree of Heaven" (invasive species) OMG my sinuses are killing me...

    have you tried doing neti pot rinses?
    Seriously, is it actually tree pollen season in the DC area? Because I haven't really noticed anything. I mean, the forsythia are blooming, but other than that, it still feels like a wasteland.

    I second the suggestion of a neti pot. I've gotten through allergies, sinus infections, and even colds without using any decongestant other than a Neti pot and sea salt solution. I even had a doctor prescribe "aggressive decongesting" (i.e., Neti pot or saline nasal spray) rather than an antibiotic for a sinus infection, which is what got me using the Neti regularly to begin with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lynna View Post
    Dairy does not increase mucus in the body. Does milk make mucus worse? - Health & Wellbeing
    Damn, my sinuses must hate science or something. Or maybe that guy is just wrong.

    Anyway, OP, could it be A/C? In large buildings A/C seems to screw with my sinuses. Also, swimming in salt water cleans them out.

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    Great discussions to hear what everyone is dealing with in their own unique way. Here I started the day with a concern - and although I still have the congestion, I worked through the day and before I realized it, it was 5:00 - and that means I IF'd for 20 hours with no problemos. To make it even better, I had one of the best workouts since my re-commitment to Primal/Paleo and added to my body recomposition. Life is great, eh?
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    Any time I consume a lot of dairy I get "dairy throat", where mucus collects in my throat.

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    The viscous quality of may give the feel of mucus production but...
    [Table 1. Structured Interview: Percentages of Believers and Non-Believers Experiencing Symptoms after Drinking Milk [12]
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    Experimental Studies on Dairy Consumption and Mucus
    Pinnock and Arney [15] conducted a randomised, double-blind trial to investigate the relationship between cow’s milk consumption and mucus formation, the so called "milk mucus" effect. They divided 125 subjects into a milk (n = 60) or placebo group (n = 65), of which 43 and 29, respectively, believed that cow’s milk consumption produces mucus. These subjects received 300 mL of cow’s milk or 300 mL of a soy-based drink (placebo). Both drinks were ultra-heat treated and a cocoa-peppermint flavour-combination was found to be most effective in disguising both the mouth-feel of milk and the after-taste of the soy drink and were used for a randomized, double-blind trial. The subjects answered a questionnaire before they received a chilled test drink, and repeated the questionnaire five minutes after, four hours after and the following morning. In both groups three out of 14 indicators of a milk and mucus effect (coating over mouth, back of throat; need to swallow a lot; saliva thicker, harder to swallow) showed statistically significant increases, but only immediately following the test drink in both milk and placebo groups (Table 2). These three indicators were analysed with reference to a belief in a relationship between milk drinking and mucus formation as well as to the assumption by the subjects that they were drinking cow’s milk. Subjects who believed in a "milk mucus" effect or thought the drink was milk tended to show larger, though not significant, increases in these three indicators: increases in "coating over mouth", "swallow a lot" and "saliva thicker". The authors concluded that it was possible to detect an increase in three "milk mucus" sensations by the believers after drinking both beverages. The effect which was measured was thus not specific to cow’s milk and was also produced by the soy-based drink.
    Milk Consumption Does Not Lead to Mucus Production or Occurrence of Asthma -- Wüthrich et al. 24 (Supplement 6): 547S -- Journal of the American College of Nutrition

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