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    I'm sure you will agree the healthcare industry in the US is at least fascism. And I would argue that fascism is nothing more than a form of socialism which appeals to the right wing.

    Replace socialism with statism, it's all the same thing. It's all about violence. That is all that government is -- violence.

    Violence never solves anything.

    You do not reach a utopia through the use of force.

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    Apparently both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sudenveri View Post
    Apparently both.
    That's the best argument you can come up with? I must be an obtuse non-American because I believe in peace, freedom, and liberty?

    I'm anti-violence. Therefore I'm dense.

    I believe in freedom and liberty. Therefore I'm not American.
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    Seriously, I know they're hoping we get pissed off and just quit so they don't have to pay severance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grok View Post
    GOTD: People who think socialism means utopia.
    You *don't* think that socialism is utopian?

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    Quote Originally Posted by magicmerl View Post
    You *don't* think that socialism is utopian?
    Maybe anarcho-socialism is utopian, but that would last about five minutes at best.

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    Having to give up my health insurance because it went from being 20% of my income to being 30% of my income in the past 6 month. I've tried to do the right thing and buy my own insurance. It had a high deductible, so I never went to the doctor for basic stuff anyway because the premium made me broke. At least now I'm primal and way healthier than before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Urban Forager View Post
    I can't tell if you are serious or if you are joking.
    Actually it's due to the fact that number of doctors is artificially limited, they used to be a higher percentage of the population and charge less for services.

    Keep in mind that doctors that accept medicare/caid are held to a bunch of insane rules and regulations that increase their costs and force them to charge XYZ.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grok View Post
    I'm sure you will agree the healthcare industry in the US is at least fascism. And I would argue that fascism is nothing more than a form of socialism which appeals to the right wing.
    Yes. Looks like someone actually studied early 20th century Europe before throwing around terms.
    Either way, both concepts are extremely authoritarian -- that is, they favor a high degree of government control and involvement in the lives of its citizens.
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    My left hand is not as functional as my right. I'm a righty and trying to do normal everyday things with my left hand is like watching the special olympics. If i try to brush my teeth, use a knife to cut a steak, scoop something with a spoon, or wipe my ass. IT JUST ISN'T HAPPENING. I can't even put a shirt on left arm first without shit hitting the fan. Same goes with putting my pants on left leg first. ARG.

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