This is Art De Vany's bugbear with Primal higher fat versions of paleo eating ... we never hit the lean times in modern life so he argues for less fat as a percentage of overall diet because we don't have lean times and we aren't moving as much as our ancestors did. Now, there's actually quite a bit of debate about how much fat our ancestors actually ate and consensus is moving toward them having eaten more than Cordain estimated some years back hence the trend to higher fat paleo. But I think that's a debate that will run and run to be honest. And, in theory at least, IFing is supposed to mimic leaner times, but so would caloric restriction ...!
Originally Posted by Paleobird
I hear you Paleobird, I'm at just the same place really although slightly younger (about 6 years). I've gained about 6-7 lbs I guess since last Autumn (been Primal for a year) and only really keep on the lean side when riding 10 - 12 hours a week on my bike through the Summer. I've come to the same conclusion as you, need to eat less overall. So I have been thinking about no chocolate, no wine, no dairy to see what happens, OR, to just reduce the quantity of everything I eat but keep the few small treats too.
I have gravitated to eating a lunch and then early evening only - this is leangains (as it happens). This suits me, I can have a cup of herbal tea at breakfast time and train fasted (unless riding long which is a different scenario entirely), do yoga etc then eat. I like this, but in the real world with a partner who works unpredictable day and night shifts it isn't proving easy to manage.
Building muscle is certainly a good thing for females of our age and is Art's way of keeping low body fat and good health - the more muscle mass the better (high metabolic rates, increased testosterone, human growth hormone and the rest). It also keeps osteoporosis at bay too.
I do agree though, people like Art and Mark have always been well muscled and lean so maintenance, even as they grow older is much easier than trying to get there from scratch without the 30 - 50 year head start they have had!
I'm off to Fuerteventura a week on Saturday for one week of maximal Vitamin D manufacture - I've only paid for half board (breakfast and dinner) so will make that my 'fat-busting' camp - no nuts, no chocolate, no dairy. Will be an n = 1 experiment - I'll let you know how I go!
Last edited by Kelda; 02-28-2011 at 09:12 AM.
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