Sex, I figured it out page 27

[jem51]

AND Patrick, I think guys do care...in general, of course, not all. Men savor a good long, lusty, wet, hot, passionate experience as much as women. But they may not know how great it can be until.....
I also believe that it is partly our fault. We don't want to hurt our guys ego but will find someone else who's better or just stop having sex w him which is pretty hurtful....Better to tell him and work it out.

[jspradley]

I have to echo what others have said...ladies just say what you want, don't expect us to find it automatically.


And my fellow guys, remember what I said, nice guys always finish last! lol

[Dave_o]

sorry if this is bringing up the 'creepy' conversation lol (i disnt mean to start a spit or swallow discussion)

i disagree Grizz. It is inappropriate and passion killing to lecture a new lover -- esp with diagrams!

for example, I don't need him to tell me what to do - but I do know there are certain things I should touch -- and do other things, and I will be guided by his response. You would not suggest that he lectures me on stroke technique or -- other things -- but he expects me to not just kiss and lie there, that is a given

my complaint is men that don't try. that are so focussed on themslves 'getting there' that they forget you are part of the equation. that is just selfish.

and if he wasn't going to try -- diagrams and a lecture on how I want it isn't going to help. if he has the mentality that its all about him, that's it!

Maybe after some time its worth experimenting and that is loads of fun. But for initial first romps, he should be aware of touching certain errogenous zones and 'listening' to the response just as much as I do with his zones.

Hey amberlee

I promise if we ever hook up in a parallel universe, I'll do my best to read your body language and facial expressions, but please don't resort to diagrams, power point presentations, or sock puppets if I'm not hitting the spot - I'll get there eventually.

But feel free to talk creepy as you wish.


Diagrams?

..good grief...

[zoebird]

diagrams really only work over dinner. once you get to the bedroom, it's more of a "see what you can do" scenario. LOL

[say_rahhh]

Sock puppets are hot.

[amberlee]

Hey amberlee

I promise if we ever hook up in a parallel universe, I'll do my best to read your body language and facial expressions, but please don't resort to diagrams, power point presentations, or sock puppets if I'm not hitting the spot - I'll get there eventually.

But feel free to talk creepy as you wish.


Diagrams?

..good grief...

Haha my thoughts exactly

Dave-O - sounds good. I promise to try, based on my experience with what works and girly talk and porn, to have a crack at making your erogenous zones feel good and guaging from the way you move and say/moan in response, as to what I should keep doing if you have a promise to have a go at making me feel good and I will give some usual cues back, its all part of the fun of 'responding' which i would prefer

I promise to hold back on the power point presentations on the wall of the bedroom. A sensual experince must be by definition about exploring and responding in the moment not a clinical -- whatever

Oh, no creepy...

diagrams really only work over dinner. once you get to the bedroom, it's more of a "see what you can do" scenario. LOL

pmsl

Sock puppets are hot.

depends whats in them

[Grizz]

I have to echo what others have said...ladies just say what you want, don't expect us to find it automatically.

And my fellow guys, remember what I said, nice guys always finish last! lol

JS,
Thank you for speaking up. If the ladies are not getting the orgasms they expect from partnersex then it is THEIR FAULT for not communicating their needs to us men. We can't read minds, and we do want to please the ladies.
* Some girls prefer to be rubbed a little to the left side or to the right side
* Some prefer the G Spot
* Some prefer the D Spot
* Some want it orally
* Some need toys

Speaking of toys, this is the ultimate story. A show on the Oprah Winfrey Network was about a woman who needed to take her laundry basket to bed with her & her DH to get it off !
Yes, she had to rub her clitoris on the corner of the laundry basket while having sex with her husband! Just imagine one woman, one man and a laundry basket having sex. Another well discussed topic by Dr. Betty Dodson is that Betty takes control of her own orgasms during partnersex. While having sex with her partner, she manually stimulates her own clitoris. She also tells her partner exactly where she want it rubbed during foreplay. ( She likes it a little to the left side) Many fun sex stories at Betty's website. She also stresses good communications between partners.

So don't complain about the man when you yourself are silent . We men respond well to any & all suggestions you make.
SPEAK UP, even if it is at the dinner table. And if you don't know what gets it off, go to Dr. Betty's website and learn from her.

Lets hear from the men on this subject of women keeping their sexual needs a secret from us.... Its a universal problem. I suspect the ladies get embarrassed and are just afraid to speak up.

Grizz

[Patrick]

Lets hear from the men on this subject of women keeping their sexual needs a secret from us....

Let's not. This "he said, she said" shit is so fucking boring. Stop beating dead horses with dildos.

[arthurb999]

I can't believe i missed out on this thread... lol.

[Saoirse]

Lets hear from the men on this subject of women keeping their sexual needs a secret from us.... Its a universal problem. I suspect the ladies get embarrassed and are just afraid to speak up.

Grizz

ummm...yeah. because the ladies on this thread are REALLY bashful about sex, and don't like having fulfilling sex!! i think grizz just wants to give more advice so he can think he's some sort of sex guru.