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    This thread is very...interesting. Go on.

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    No, it doesn't. It's just part of how you're wired. I do have an odd question for you, though. Feel free to tell me to butt out. Can you actually completely let yourself go in the moment, no worries, no self consciousness? The reason I ask is I had an issue with this for a while, which is part of the reason I started with the lingerie "character."
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    Lingerie makes me feel like I'm on display if that makes any sense and I have never been comfortable with that. Its just like this guy at work who keeps checking me out and I want to shoot him. I can handle being naked just not covered in lace and stuff like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by naiadknight View Post
    No, it doesn't. It's just part of how you're wired. I do have an odd question for you, though. Feel free to tell me to butt out. Can you actually completely let yourself go in the moment, no worries, no self consciousness? The reason I ask is I had an issue with this for a while, which is part of the reason I started with the lingerie "character."
    You're fine. I think I could have done that at 19 or 20 but now not so much. I end up thinking I look "squatty" or this is sticking out and I don't like that. I know he doesn't think that but I do.
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    Georgette, EVERYONE looks funny during sex. Limbs akimbo, funny expressions, out sticky outy bits, all that. Comes with the territory. Porn got it wrong. The best kayaking isn't the "not one hair out of place, it's oh so clean." The best kayaking is what Bill Engvall referred to as "Hot Pig [Kayaking]". "Y'know, where you're not even talking, you're just rooting around." I wouldn't worry about it.
    Now that I've said that, I know how hard those old worries can be to break. Y'all'll figure it out. Even if hot pig kayaking comes by accident one day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grizz View Post
    Ladies,

    which orgasm is best for you . . . the Clitoral, G-Spot, or D-Spot?

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    I like them all (who doesn't like an orgasm?), but I've found that clitoral ones are the most enjoyable for me. I've heard that it's usually gspot/dspot orgasms that are supposed to be the 'good' ones, but I can have really, really powerful tears-of-pleasure, about-to-fall-off-the-bed, completely-out-of-breath clitoral orgasms.

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    Ah, lingerie, Mr Grok's most favourite subject. I have wardrobes full of the stuff but really don't care to wear it. In fact I haven't in years. He loves the whole dressing up thing but it's just not me. I want to be naked Primal me not wrapped up like a doll! He did finally stop buying it a few years back and now indulges in buying sexy knickers and bras which I do like and love to wear everyday under my clothes!
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    Quote Originally Posted by naiadknight View Post
    Georgette, EVERYONE looks funny during sex. Limbs akimbo, funny expressions, out sticky outy bits, all that. Comes with the territory. Porn got it wrong. The best kayaking isn't the "not one hair out of place, it's oh so clean." The best kayaking is what Bill Engvall referred to as "Hot Pig [Kayaking]". "Y'know, where you're not even talking, you're just rooting around." I wouldn't worry about it.
    Now that I've said that, I know how hard those old worries can be to break. Y'all'll figure it out. Even if hot pig kayaking comes by accident one day.
    I get that and I'm ok with that. I also have trouble just getting my mind to shut off for a bit to even enjoy it. I keep thinking of everything that I need to do or just anything that comes across my mind. Once for some odd reason I was thinking about baseball and I don't even like baseball. I kept obsessing about why I don't like baseball.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zoebird View Post
    he has been learning a lot about masculinity and things like "leading" and "having direction" and substance ....one of our practitioners gave him some work by David Deida, which speaks to the idea of leading.......some of the language is off-putting, but still -- the information looks pretty sound overall.
    Totally agreed. I wish someone would rewrite Deida's stuff from an evopsy/evo bio perspective rather than it's ridiculous new age bent. (riduculous to me at least).

    But yes, the core information....mmmmhmmmm.


    Quote Originally Posted by zoebird View Post
    for me, it's about being cared for and lead or gifted an experience, rather than having to create it myself from beginning to end....so much of my life is planning and executing on plans.
    For once, right? For ONCE please. And maybe for a bunch of times. Not all the time. I'm happy to have a balance but please, let's not always have it be me making everything happen.

    i think i need to see actual evidence, and after 14 years, i'm not sure i believe it. we'll get there (or we won't). LOL
    +1 Zoe. Plus freaking one.

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    While it doesn't start out sounding like a journal article, I promise that it actually is. Good read too.

    Social dominance and forceful submission fantasies: feminine pathology or power?
    http://www.people.ku.edu/~phawley/Pu...SR_%202009.pdf

    Here is a link to her website:
    http://www.psych.ku.edu/psych_people...a_Hawley.shtml
    Selected Publications
    Hawley, P.H., Stump, K.N., & Ratliff, J.M. (in press). Sidestepping the jingle fallacy: Bullying, aggression, and the importance of knowing the difference. In D. Espelage & S. Swearer, Bullying in American Schools (2e). Rutledge.

    Hawley, P.H., & Hensley, W.A. (in press). Social dominance and forceful submission fantasies: Feminine pathology or power? Journal of Sex Research.(available on JSR website).

    Hawley, P.H., Shorey, H.S., & Alderman, P.M. (in press). Attachment correlates of resource control strategies: Possible origins of social dominance and interpersonal power differentials. Journal of Social and Personal Relationships.

    Hawley, P.H., Little, T.D., & Card, N.A. (2008). The myth of the alpha male: A new look at dominance-related beliefs and behaviors among adolescent males and females. International Journal of Behavioral Development.

    Hawley, P.H., Little, T.D., & Rodkin, P. (2007). Aggression and Adaptation: The Bright Side to Bad Behavior. New Jersey: Lawrence Erlbaum.

    Hawley, P.H., Card, N., & Little, T.D. (2007). The allure of a mean friend: Relationship quality and processes of aggressive adolescents withprosocial skills. International Journal of Behavioral Development, 31, 22-32.

    Hawley, P.H. (2006). Evolution and personality: A new look at Machiavellianism. In D. Mroczek & T. Little (Eds.), Handbook of Personality Development. New Jersey: Lawrence Erlbaum.

    Hawley, P. H., Johnson, S. E., Mize, J. A., & McNamara, K. A. (2007). Physical attractiveness in preschoolers: Relationships with power, status, aggression and social skills. Journal of School Psychology, 45, 499-521.

    Hawley, P.H. (1999). The ontogenesis of social dominance: A strategy-based evolutionary perspective. Developmental Review, 19, 97-132.

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