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    Someone wrote recently that seeds were not good on a Primal eating plan.


    Why not?


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    I love seeds. I eat them all the time. Especially almonds.


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    I love seeds, too. Seeds that are edible in their raw state are primal.


    Non-edible seeds like legumes and cereal grains are not primal.


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    Marloe seeds are good but in moderation due to their high Omega 6 content.

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    Does anybody else eat the shells of sunflower seeds? I bought a big bag for less than 2 bucks, but find it quite a pain to shell them...Haven't seen any issues with it so far.. Marloe, take a O-3 pill?


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    I think they were talking of Flax and that it isn't primal..flax seeds...xoxo Darlene


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    seeds have lectins in them; and i've read that lectins are harmful, so now, though i like them, i don't eat either seeds or nuts


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    Darlene - Why not flax seeds? Did flax not grow wild?


    gn - Are lectins not the blood group evils and is the blood type diet not just more fad stuff? Or am I missing something about lectins?


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    Hi Marloe


    persoanlly I eat the seeds that we call 'nuts' (but not cashews) because they have hard shells which enable them to have much lower levels of lectins. I avoid what we call 'seeds' as they contain high levels of lectins and I can't see Grock spending time collecting them when they could be hunting game. I think they are starvation food at best.


    This is an extract from 'INTRODUCTION TO THE PALAEOLITHIC DIET' by Dr. Ben Balzer


    Lectins are natural proteins that have a large variety of roles. They are amongst the most

    fascinating and stimulating of all biological compounds, and I have no doubt that they play a major role in many "unexplained " diseases. I think of them as "Hannibal Lectins" as they remind of the devious criminal mastermind in the shock horror movie "Silence of the Lambs.' Lectins are like master code-breakers. The cells of our bodies are studded with receptors which are like code pads to ensure stimulation only under the correct circumstances. Lectins have the ability to crack these codes and stimulate the receptors causing a variety of responses- covering basically the full repertoire of the cell and even tricking the cell into doing things it normally cannot do.

    They also have a knack for bypassing our defenses and "getting behind the lines", and then they can travel all over the body causing harm. They can, for example:

    --strip protective mucus off tissues,

    --damage the cells lining the small intestine- disrupting the microscopic fingers called villi and microvilli,

    --get swallowed whole by the small intestine cells ("pinocytosis")

    --bind to cells including blood cells causing a clot to form (hence they were initially called "haemagglutins")

    --make a cell act as if it has been stimulated by a hormone-

    --stimulate a cell to secrete a hormone

    --promote cell division at the wrong time

    --cause growth or shrinkage of lymphatic tissue ("outposts" of white blood cells)

    --cause enlargement of the pancreas

    --cause cells to present codes (HLA's) that they normally should not use

    --cause cell death (apoptosis)

    Lectins break down the surface of the small intestine, stripping it of mucus and causing the cells to become irregular and leaky. Some lectins make cells act as if they have been stimulated by insulin. Others cause the pancreas to release insulin. Others cause immune cells to divide in the wrong way, causing growth of some white blood cells and breaking down the control of the immune system. Others cause cells to present the wrong codes (HLA's) on their surface, tricking the immune system into thinking that intruders have been found and activating the immune system inappropriately- thus leading to "autoimmune disease" where the body's tissues are attacked by its own immune system.

    Autoimmune diseases are incredibly common and increase every year that a person gets older. A disordered immune system also has a much harder job recognizing and attacking the real intruders- invading germs and cancer cells (you may have heard that scientists think that most people generate many cancer cells in a life time but that the immune system cleans most of them up).

    It is not known whether lectins can cause cancer- this is one of the most important questions in medicine today. They certainly affect colon cells in the test tube. I feel that they are likely candidates as they can stimulate abnormal cell growth and they also cause disorder in the immune system.

    Lectins have many other roles besides defending seeds. For example in beans, lectins act like a glue to enable nitrogen-fixing bacteria to bind to the roots of the plant. Many important lectin families are found in animal tissues, but as we are carnivores, we have evolved to be able to deal with these- just as birds that live on grains have evolved to be resistant to grain lectins.


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    Wow - involved little subject isn't it!


    What happens if you soak the seeds first ?) I know that if you do that with almonds, (they call it sprouting, even if it doesn't sprout) it breaks down the enzyme inhibitors. Would that happen with seeds as well? I am no student of biology so am agog with all this info.


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