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    Desperate, cut the dairy altogether. Its been shown to slow weightloss even though its zero carb.


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    Dairy has carbs, what do you think lactose is? One cup of whole milk has 11.5 grams of carbs.


    But cutting it out is a good idea. Besides being carbs and more calories generally that one in weight loss doesn't need, there are the issues of antibodies and inflammation.


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    Sorry yeah of course, i was thinking just cheese.


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    What about heavy cream and butter? Heavy Cream has 1 g of carbs and tons of good fats. Can it still be considered "dairy" in the negative sense of the word or should we consider it good fats?


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    Paleo Piper, have you heard the "Paper Towel Theory"?


    Paper Towel Theory by Bob White


    Let’s assume you go out and buy two rolls of paper towels, each with only 84 paper towels on it (one for each day of the challenge). You put one aside, and keep it for future reference (your before/ picture).


    The other one represents you (I’ll call your paper towel you “Ed”). The core represents the lean Ed. The towels represent the fat that is covering the lean Ed. For sake of argument, let’s say that Ed wants to lose 21 pounds of fat, so (84/21) each sheet represents a quarter-pound of fat lost. Let’s also assume that Ed loses his fat equally during each day of the challenge.


    Each day during the first week, you tear a sheet off of Ed, representing the fat he has lost for the day. Next, you put Ed next to the full roll (”Big Al”) for comparison. No noticeable difference!!! Even at the end of the week! This can’t be working for me!


    But, being a good Ed, you continue to follow Body-for-LIFE. At the end of weeks two and three, you continue to compare Ed to Big Al, and still notice very little difference. That stinkin’ Bill Phillips MUST be a liar!


    But Ed is determined! He works hard! Three more weeks go by, the sheets peeling off day after day, before Ed gets up the courage to stand next to Big Al again. Holy Myoplex! Ed is skinny! OK, not skinny, but less huge!!!


    By the end of the 12-week Body-for-LIFE program, Ed is down to his lean dream, or somewhere near it. Ed is happy. We are happy. Big Al – well he’s not so happy.


    The lesson to be learned is that fat, like paper towels, comes off in sheets. When you are heavy, you are big around. And when you are big around,that fat is spread over a MUCH larger area – just like that outside towel sheet. The closer you get to the lean you, the more each lost pound of fat shows, because it is spread over a smaller area.


    While the outside sheet may only cover 1 layer of the roll, the inside sheet may go around 4 times. That last sheet looks like it gives you 4 times the results of the first sheet, but in reality, the results are the same – your perception is just different! And you’ll never see the inside, if you aren’t patient while the outside is coming off! – Bob White


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    Cheese has carbs, too. The amount depends on if it is fresh, soft, or hard. But always some.


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    dragonmamma, is this like "Fat Loss For Dummies"? I've never heard of that one before but I can think of a few people I can use this with


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    I cut and pasted that. It's been around for a while with the Body For Life Crowd.


    I think it's a good explanation for why it takes a while to see a difference in weight loss.


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    Now, if there was only a similar explanation of why people who carry a lot more weight on them tend to drop it much quicker (# lb-wise) than those who have a lot less weight to loose.


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    The dairy thing is true... all dairy seems to prevent fat loss, though there aren't any studies to prove this. Dr. Eades who has treated probably hundreds of thousands of patients in his practice and retirement has noticed this phenomena over and over. It doesn't matter if it is cream or butter or skim milk (it is something other than the carb) because dairy may have a special effect on insulin or ATP independent of it's nutrient composition.

    I think until we know for sure, let's go with the idea that dairy is a neolithic food and is not fit for human consumption, therefore, just like how nightshades cause joint inflammation, dairy may be damaging our natural metabolic process in some way...


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