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    I am alone in my house all day today and Wednesday. Do you have any idea how rare that is?
    Woohoo. Almost Never happens for me...and as an introvert, I love it when it does

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    I am reading "The Diet Cure" by Julia Ross. .... I think this may be important for the "lower protein" crowd. We may not be getting enough aminos from our food..
    I have been thinking about this a lot lately. It's why I have been attempting to eat more offal. Liver, heart, etc. - GREAT amino profile. I'm hesitant to take the supplements, though. Too much? Not enough? I don't know. But, it is a challenge with lower protein. One has to pay enough attention.

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    It is interesting, like me she is a big advocate of eating enough. She sets the low limits of calories for every adult at 2100 calories. The World Health Organization has stated that "starvation begins" under that number. She has also found in her research that even the concentration camp Treblinka gave prisoners 900 cals/day. So all you "low cal" peeps out there, make sure you are maintaining a good balance of proteins and fats (and carbs, Ross would add).
    She gives a wide range of 50-100 grams of protein being enough for most people.
    If I ate 2100 calories per day, I would gain, NK or not. At 1600, I steadily gained 7 pounds (a lot for me). I'm also wondering how NK impacts things. The NK advocates say that it is muscle-sparing, and thus overall fewer calories are needed. I think one would have to look at the composition of food to really know if 900 is stavation (depends on what they were feeding them). I love the protein range 50-100 - that's a HUGE range In terms of calories, though, while I seem to need a lot less than others, I always say start high and whittle from there. Although, if you are eating 1400 calories per day, given that you are 4-5" taller than me and WAY more active, my level is probably about equivalent....
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    The starvation experiment that was done by Ancel Keyes during WWII they ate, on average 1400 calories. Interesting book about it.

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    Ruth, Even I do not believe that a really short woman should eat 2100 calories, but she claims that her clients don't gain. She herself eats 3000cals a day. 2100 was even tough for me to get in. And, I agree about the comp of the 900 cals. The prisoners were probably getting potatoes or rice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by demuralist View Post
    The starvation experiment that was done by Ancel Keyes during WWII they ate, on average 1400 calories. Interesting book about it.
    I wonder what the food composition of that experiment was?

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    Wt. Down 1.6 Still up a ridiculous amount from Fri AM
    FBS 124, 108 yesterday weird. I was sick all night. I tried a new type of tea that tasted super sweet. Gym workout?
    Ketones Neg.

    TMI Warning My body decided to evacuate all of the useless leftovers of the garbage I ate over the weekend in one shot. I woke up to a childbirth like cramp in my gut. I jumped up and ran to the bathroom. The pain was so intense, that I felt my legs going numb just as I reached the bathroom. This was followed by waves of cramping, nausea and cold sweats for at least half an hour. I was afraid I would pass out and I was considering having Bill take me to the hospital, until I figured out what was going on. I have no idea whether it was the wheat in the beer or the high volume of cheese, but I sure got a lesson.

    I feel like garbage today. Bill and I have no set plans, just some "to do" errands and vague thoughts. Tuesday is usually a dead day in small towns around here.

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    I don't remember all the details of the diet, but here is an article about them...They Starved So That Others Be Better Fed: Remembering Ancel Keys and the Minnesota Experiment oh and I was wrong their intake was 1800 calories.

    Now you know what to expect when you do prep for your colonoscopy when you turn 50! Hope you get to feeling better soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pebbles67 View Post
    Wt. Down 1.6 Still up a ridiculous amount from Fri AM
    FBS 124, 108 yesterday weird. I was sick all night. I tried a new type of tea that tasted super sweet. Gym workout?
    Ketones Neg.

    TMI Warning My body decided to evacuate all of the useless leftovers of the garbage I ate over the weekend in one shot. I woke up to a childbirth like cramp in my gut. I jumped up and ran to the bathroom. The pain was so intense, that I felt my legs going numb just as I reached the bathroom. This was followed by waves of cramping, nausea and cold sweats for at least half an hour. I was afraid I would pass out and I was considering having Bill take me to the hospital, until I figured out what was going on. I have no idea whether it was the wheat in the beer or the high volume of cheese, but I sure got a lesson.

    I feel like garbage today. Bill and I have no set plans, just some "to do" errands and vague thoughts. Tuesday is usually a dead day in small towns around here.
    oh no!! Hope you are feeling better, your body was probably paying you back for what you fed it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pebbles67 View Post
    TMI Warning My body decided to evacuate all of the useless leftovers of the garbage I ate over the weekend in one shot. I woke up to a childbirth like cramp in my gut. I jumped up and ran to the bathroom. The pain was so intense, that I felt my legs going numb just as I reached the bathroom. This was followed by waves of cramping, nausea and cold sweats for at least half an hour. I was afraid I would pass out and I was considering having Bill take me to the hospital, until I figured out what was going on. I have no idea whether it was the wheat in the beer or the high volume of cheese, but I sure got a lesson.
    Dairy (except for butter/ghee) does this to me. I'm very sorry you went through this!!

    Have a wonderful date day!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Thanks ladies.

    My body is not happy. I gained 10 lbs in 3 days. I feel so stupid. It would have been ok if I had only had a bad Sunday, but I started eating on fri night in anticipation of sun.

    Today I am starting a new regimen of amino acids to try and kill the binge monster another way.

    NK macros the same as last week.

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    Did you look into the dandelion tea for the bloat? I made some for me because, well, I am a giant water bag sometimes! LOL
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