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    Quote Originally Posted by namelesswonder View Post
    Enjoy your day off & weekend. Great observations for this past week. I have no doubt that you will meet your goals.

    For the uneducated, what is an ideal FBS range?
    typically anything less than 100 is good for a "true" fasting blood sugar.... if you have eaten within 12 hours of the test, I think anything less than 120-150 is "acceptable".... now I sufffer from CRS and am going from memory here, so don't quote me on this...

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    NW, I think Paula is reaching for the 50 range for cancer prevention as per Dr. Seyfried in Dr. Ede's blog, but FBS would normally be considered good if it is below 100.

    Paula, my kids sleep past noon on weekends so we have no worries there! And anytime they are both out of town (which is easier now that one is away at college) that works well. It will be interesting to see what happens when my youngest goes off to college and we are empty nesters.

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    Nameless Wonder,

    ssn679doc has it right. Anything under 100 is considered a healthy FBS.

    Like demuralist said, I was trying for a lower than normal FBS, between 55-65 for cancer fighting benefits based on Dr Seyfried's research. Anything under 70 is considered hypoglycemic and generally not desirable.
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    Dr. Cate Shanahan says that 100 might actually be a bit high, and sets the bar at less than 90. FWIW.

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    Hey James!

    Yeah prefer mine to be below 90. They have been all this week.

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    Ok, some thoughts on protein.

    I have done 9 days at the 65 gram level and have seen no marked change in my FBS. I think in order to reach Dr. Seyfreid's ideal FBS level, the second part of the formula has to be low calories. Dr. Ede got to the ideal FBS and the 4.0mmol ketone level (and was miserable) eating around 1000 cals and 50-60g protein. I do not see that as smart or necessary for me at this time.

    **Dr, Ede has not yet posted this week's update...wonder why.

    This week I gained 1.5% body fat, but still lost weight. My fluid intake was steady. This tells me I lost lean body mass, not fat. (Ddraig Goch, I'd love to hear your thoughts on this.)

    It is my plan to drop dairy this week. Unfortunately, dairy is a big fat contributor in my diet. I am going to allow my protein to go up to 20% and fat to go back down to 75%. Carbs will stay at 5%. I still plan to eat to my BMR (1746) as a minimum calorie level.

    Here is a link to the protein levels recommended by several NK gurus. Unfortunately, they do not agree.
    Daily Protein Requirement
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    For me to get below 60g of protein is actually hard work, and generally does not leave much room for a reasonable amount of protein at dinner. I think that the levels Dr. Seyfreid suggests are something I will definitely do should I be diagnosed with cancer. In the mean time, with cancer prevention in mind, I plan to keep my net carbs below 15 (as this allows me to eat the veggies that I love) and my protein in the 15% to 18% range, filling the rest with fat.

    Currently my dairy consists of HWC and kerrygold butter daily, and maybe some gouda once a week. I refuse to believe it is a problem for me. I may get there if after very careful monitoring in the next few months I still don't lose weight. But I don't wanna.

    p.s. I would think you are being very successful right now, no binging and losing weight, why are you going to the "no dairy" route? (I understand the increase in protein route though)
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    This week, I was thinking of just cutting cheese intake. I am eating about 3 oz/day, plus butter and HWC.

    However, you may be right. For the sake of being scientific, I should up the protein to the 20% level first for a week and then drop the dairy for the third week in March.

    Dairy can sometimes keep you from getting into deeper ketosis. However, since I don't have a monitor. How would I know?

    PS, I don't feel especially successful this week. Not sure why. I think the gain in body fat is pissing me off.

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    I get that, but you lost, and overall you have a good fat loss to LBM loss right? I saw someone who is taking note of these sorts of things on EMF say something about a ratio of body fat to LBM you can expect. was it Ddraing Goch?

    And yes, only change one thing at a time, or you will never know what made a difference. So up the protein, then if that isn't enough drop the cheese. I don't think I could be happy if I thought I could never eat cheese. I could cut way back and be ok though. I actually think I am ok with an ounce or 2 of gouda, but cream cheese seems to be an issue-more of a trigger than stall though.

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    you are successful.. you are learning so much from your body and that is success. I have wondered if the dairy is keeping me out of ketosis.. I am still not there.. I am like Chris though, I don;t wanna!!
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