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    Have fun! Sounds like a cool barber shop.
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    That definitely sounds like a cool place. Have fun and hopefully get some dancing in.

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    Hey Gang,

    I have a concern that I am going to discuss here and then see if you have any further ideas.

    I feel great being back in the 220's again and I feel fairly strong where the binge issue is concerned. Unfortunately I am constantly tired. I am sleeping as much as I can. Last week, I thought this was due to my period, but it has not let up. I am barely functioning at work. This weekend, I sat around reading and playing on the internet. I was paralyzed most of yesterday by a severe headache with nausea. (possibly weather related) Today I just could not get moving. Both days I took naps and woke up feeling worse than before.

    Truthfully, I fear that if I can't figure this out, then VLC will not be sustainable for me. My husband is beginning to notice my constant exhaustion and flat mood. He will eventually insist that I make changes. Or I will have to give in to my body screaming for ??? with a binge.

    My thoughts
    1) Electrolyte Imbalance - I gave up regular bouillon intake a couple of weeks ago. I had one yesterday and just had a double today. Not sure if it is doing anything.
    2) Dehydration - I have been drinking about 16 ounces of water and 24 oz of coffee / day. Today I have had 50 oz of water.
    3) Iron deficiency - I have been taking two Iron doses, but maybe three might be better?

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    Paula, I drink closer to 150oz of fluid a day.

    I also just read that eating something decreases iron absorption, I can't remember what it was, I will do a search. I do remember that eating vitamin C source with iron increases absorption, as does cooking in cast iron.

    Foods That Inhibit Iron Absorption | LIVESTRONG.COM

    Maybe you should get tested for anemia, my memory is that a vitamin B deficiency could cause a problem,

    " Vitamin-deficiency anemia may occur when vitamin B12 and folate are deficient. These two vitamins are needed to make red blood cells. Conditions leading to anemia caused by vitamin deficiency include:

    Megaloblastic anemia: Vitamin B12 or folate or both are deficient
    Pernicious anemia: Poor vitamin B12 absorption caused by conditions such as Crohn's disease, an intestinal parasite infection, surgical removal of part of the stomach or intestine, or infection with HIV
    Dietary deficiency: Eating little or no meat may cause a lack vitamin B12, while overcooking or eating too few vegetables may cause a folate deficiency.
    Other causes of vitamin deficiency: pregnancy, certain medications, alcohol abuse, intestinal diseases such as tropical sprue and celiac disease"

    So maybe VLC cut out too many veggies for you?

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    How about your serotonin levels? Carb intake effects these. I don't have all the info or answers here, but maybe look into it. I am sure there are many other ways to increase serotonin without drugs or carbs. I have been having some similar issues lately and think hormones are part of my deal as well. I've been getting migraines that make it hard to function. I never had low carb flu in the past two years eating this way but seem to be effected this way now.

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    Paula, have you ever thought about adding a b-complex with added b12 into your routine? One of the things a nurse friend has told me is that those of us who eat low carb and or gluten-free have a lack of b12. You're body doesn't need the iron. It's b-12 that it needs. Most people(including us primals) are anemic due to low b12. That is why if you're anemic you need to eat more liver, red meat and spinach. Not for the iron, but b-12. It's done wonders for me. Wouldn't hurt to try it out. Plus the added iron could be leading to your lack of BM and dehydration.
    Georgette

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    Quote Originally Posted by demuralist View Post
    Paula, I drink closer to 150oz of fluid a day.

    I also just read that eating something decreases iron absorption, I can't remember what it was, I will do a search. I do remember that eating vitamin C source with iron increases absorption, as does cooking in cast iron.

    Foods That Inhibit Iron Absorption | LIVESTRONG.COM

    Maybe you should get tested for anemia, my memory is that a vitamin B deficiency could cause a problem,

    " Vitamin-deficiency anemia may occur when vitamin B12 and folate are deficient. These two vitamins are needed to make red blood cells. Conditions leading to anemia caused by vitamin deficiency include:

    Megaloblastic anemia: Vitamin B12 or folate or both are deficient
    Pernicious anemia: Poor vitamin B12 absorption caused by conditions such as Crohn's disease, an intestinal parasite infection, surgical removal of part of the stomach or intestine, or infection with HIV
    Dietary deficiency: Eating little or no meat may cause a lack vitamin B12, while overcooking or eating too few vegetables may cause a folate deficiency.
    Other causes of vitamin deficiency: pregnancy, certain medications, alcohol abuse, intestinal diseases such as tropical sprue and celiac disease"

    So maybe VLC cut out too many veggies for you?
    Thanks demuralist. This was exactly what I was getting at.
    Georgette

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    As a person who also lives a stressful life, I can say that it often takes more than a weekend to recover. You have a lot of stress and you are very busy - I can see that even if you are eating perfectly, you could find yourself with periods of exhaustion that take awhile to bounce out of.

    I have also been wondering if we, as VLCers, need to be extra vigilant to get in our vitamins and minerals. Not just through muscle meats and fats, but through organ meats and bone broths. I have nothing to back this us, but seems to me we need those nutrients somewhere. I also have no clue, assuming this is anywhere on point, about what the proper ratios of these other foods are.

    Wish I could be more help. Get to feeling better soon!

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    As the others are offering good physical advice, I will offer this piece:

    This may be completely normal. You are under a lot of stress, with your husband, kids, job, money, health concerns, etc. You may be slightly depressed and it is natural and good that the body seeks to sleep more and rest when you are depressed. I think it is a modern construct that we expect to feel happy/good/up all the time, or maybe that OTHERS expect us to be.

    Yes, get enough exercise into your life so that you can honestly say you are not spending all your leisure time on the sofa in your pajamas. But I'm talking maybe 30 minutes per day. Otherwise, rest. Sleep. Do things that are fun for you, even if that is sitting on the sofa watching tv. Give it at least the three weeks that you were giving LCHF, now that you are adjusted to that.

    If your husband mentions that you are crabby, tell him there are good reasons for it, and he'll just have to help make your LIFE easier, and not worry so much about the food. It MAY be the food, but I would not jump to that as the first reason. After all, look at what you have going on. Plenty of reasons there for stress or depression. Or plain old crabbiness.

    And keep remembering how well the diet is helping you with your binges. That is worth a lot!

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    Thanks everyone.

    So this is my worst nightmare...I am currently sitting alone in the corner of a picnic bench in a crowded bar. My husband is off socializing somewhere. I should just abandon our spot and go dancing.
    Paula Primal since 9/24/2010
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