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    An elderly friend has been diagnosed with Pagets disease. A quick google recommends calcium and vitamin D supplementation in addition to drug treatment. Is there a non-CW path here? The guy is chronically overmedicated and almost certainly chronically vitamin D deficient. What supplementation would you recommend?
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    well, i have no experience with the disease, but i tend to dig into what the drug therapies are trying to accomplish.

    in some cases, the drug therapies are seeking to "make up for" a organ-function's deficiency in some way (eg not related to paget's, blocking seratonin if there is an abundance of the chemical in one's brain and one is overstimulated, or increasing seratonin so that more can get to receptors when it is underproduced, and so on). of course, it doesn't get to the cause--how do we get the cells to produce the right amounts?

    this would take me to a study of what creates conditions for health cells--so that they do the right things. what nutrients, lifestyle changes (more sun? more rest? more meditation? better breathing techniques?), and what other elements could create the best opportunities for health to arise.

    that's how i go about it, anyway.

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    Any on-topic responses?
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    Quote Originally Posted by peril View Post
    A quick google recommends calcium and vitamin D supplementation in addition to drug treatment. Is there a non-CW path here? The guy is chronically overmedicated and almost certainly chronically vitamin D deficient. What supplementation would you recommend?
    You got the answer already. He is severely vitamin D Deficient, and this leads to terrible health problems including bone disease. It is vital for him to get enough Vitamin D for an OPTIMAL blood test reading. At his age, and condition, I suggest 20,000 IU Daily of vitamin D3 ( because of his age & condition). Followed up by a 25(OH)D Blood level test to be between 60–80 ng/ml after 2 months. Then adjust the dosage up or down as required for the 60-80 reading. You are likely to need to boost his dosage, please do send me a personal message with his test results. (click of Grizz upper left corner)

    Here are a few links for you to look at:
    * 10,000 IU D3 Gelcaps Daily to achieve correct blood level in most people
    -Proper 25(OH)D Blood Level is 60-70 ng/ml Toxicity overdose > 120-130 ng/ml
    http://heartscanblog.blogspot.com/se...el/vitamin%20D

    * D Council: Toxicicity overdose > 40,000 IU Daily
    http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/vitaminDToxicity.shtml
    http://www.easy-immune-health.com/Ov...Vitamin-D.html

    * Megadoses 50,000 IU daily required by some people
    ( your friend might be in this class, at least for a while because of his age )
    http://www.inspire.com/groups/nation...-000-iu-daily/

    D Council: What diseases are associated with vitamin D deficiency?
    ============================================
    * Osteoporosis * heart disease,
    * hypertension, * autoimmune diseases, arthritis
    * certain cancers, * depression,
    * chronic fatigue, * chronic pain comprises
    http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/vdds.shtml

    Additional Diseases/conditions associated with vitamin D Deficiency
    * malformed, brittle bones, bone fractures and osteoporosis, stooped posture
    * Rickets, Multiple Sclerosis, Type 2 diabetes, Arthritis
    * Increased risk of cancers
    * bone pain, muscle cramps, tingling, weakness, loss of height.
    * Cardiovascular Disease
    * high blood pressure (hypertension)
    http://www.wrongdiagnosis.com/v/vita...ency/intro.htm

    Vitamin D Deficiency causes Osteoporosis
    Cure/prevent Osteoporosis with simple vitamins, better than drugs!
    http://heartscanblog.blogspot.com/20...ntion-and.html

    * My favorite Vitamin Shops for 5,000 IU D3 Gelltabs:
    http://www.drugstore.com/products/pr...367&aid=332800
    http://www.swansonvitamins.com/NWF182/ItemDetail

    * Home Test Kits, 25(OH)D Blood Level should be 60-70 ng/ml
    ZrtLabs at home testing kit $65
    http://www.zrtlab.com/vitamindcouncil/
    Lab Corp Testing at nearby lab $50
    http://www.saveonlabs.com/products/V...2dHydroxy.html
    Quest Corp Tests Divide by 1.3 to get correct reading
    http://www.lanisimpson.com/2009/01/2...tamin-d-tests/

    PS) Get yourself on 10,000 IU Daily with a follow up blood test for your own improved health. It is an OUTRAGE that government censors the vital need for Vitamin D in all of us.

    MUCH MORE on Vitamin D in Section 19.8 in my Research Report below,
    Grizz
    Last edited by Grizz; 12-12-2010 at 03:23 AM.

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