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    Quote Originally Posted by Kate Ruckman View Post
    Hi all..it's been a while since I posted, but I'm plugging along as primally as possible! I even started a new group on Facebook, mostly to offer a support group for friends who are primal--but we've grown nicely! ("Paleo/Primal on Facebook" I'd give you the link but my computer's hosed and I can't open FB right now...)

    ANYway, a lot going on with me...still trying to avoid knee surgery, so went for OrthoVisc shots in both knees (meh! Exspensive but not a great result), and have been having PT since late June. Sometimes good, sometimes not so great.

    Planning on branching out to Reiki and acupuncture, has anyone tried those for osteoarthritis? I have very little cartilage in my knees, and a few bone spurs to boot. I REALLY prefer to deal with this as naturally as possible.

    I take fish oil, turmeric, and nibble dried cherries...mainly would like to be a little more active and have LESS PAIN!
    Kate, how is your D3 blood level? I keep mine at 80 ng/ml for my asthma (all gone!) and now my knee pain is gone, too. I also take 500 mg krill oil and Magnesium.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Kate, how is your D3 blood level? I keep mine at 80 ng/ml for my asthma (all gone!) and now my knee pain is gone, too. I also take 500 mg krill oil and Magnesium.
    I don't know, Dragonfly, I need to check the D3 level. I DO take Vitamin D and Magnesium though...forgot to mention!
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    Goals: Feel good, be stronger, and hopefully kick that arthritis in the backside! Oh, yeah, and losing more weight would be okay, too.

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    I had acupuncture for the severe arthritis in my knees. It helped for a few days but the pain came back slowly. Because I was in my late thirties at the time, we were trying to wait until I was at least 40 to do a double replacement. Exercise along with NSAIDs helped more than all my various injections. I bought an elliptical trainer and did water aerobics in addition to pt. The knee replacements changed my life and I wish I could have had
    them sooner. If you have that option, I would recommend it. I have no pain now and full range of motion. Going through security at courthouses and airports is the biggest draw back.

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    D3 really rocks for inflammatory conditions. Oh, and bone broth is essential. I drink some almost daily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vh67 View Post
    I had acupuncture for the severe arthritis in my knees. It helped for a few days but the pain came back slowly. Because I was in my late thirties at the time, we were trying to wait until I was at least 40 to do a double replacement. Exercise along with NSAIDs helped more than all my various injections. I bought an elliptical trainer and did water aerobics in addition to pt. The knee replacements changed my life and I wish I could have had
    them sooner. If you have that option, I would recommend it. I have no pain now and full range of motion. Going through security at courthouses and airports is the biggest draw back.
    Had a giggle about the security! I do have that option, but I don't really want to go that way if I can possibly avoid it. I'm 70, though...
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    Goals: Feel good, be stronger, and hopefully kick that arthritis in the backside! Oh, yeah, and losing more weight would be okay, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    D3 really rocks for inflammatory conditions. Oh, and bone broth is essential. I drink some almost daily.
    I need to go have some bone broth! 2 jars in the fridge and I forget to drink it! Thx...
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    Goals: Feel good, be stronger, and hopefully kick that arthritis in the backside! Oh, yeah, and losing more weight would be okay, too.

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    Kate, I understand wanting to avoid knee replacement as long as you can. Recovery is tough but after the first week or two the surgery pain was no worse than the arthritis pain. If the pain gets too bad and is impacting your life too much, don't hesitate. I think eating primally really helped with my recovery.

    Another thing that was helpful prior to the surgery was icing my knees, both front and back, everyday. It was a bit painful when I did it but I could tell a difference when I did it. Good luck!

    Valerie

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    Quote Originally Posted by vh67 View Post
    Kate, I understand wanting to avoid knee replacement as long as you can. Recovery is tough but after the first week or two the surgery pain was no worse than the arthritis pain. If the pain gets too bad and is impacting your life too much, don't hesitate. I think eating primally really helped with my recovery.

    Another thing that was helpful prior to the surgery was icing my knees, both front and back, everyday. It was a bit painful when I did it but I could tell a difference when I did it. Good luck!

    Valerie
    I have arthritis on my right knee and that's one of the main reasons that I wanted to go Primal/Paleo. Icing does sound painful but I will try that. Did you also use heat?
    thanks, Rhoda

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhoda Jayne View Post
    I have arthritis on my right knee and that's one of the main reasons that I wanted to go Primal/Paleo. Icing does sound painful but I will try that. Did you also use heat?
    thanks, Rhoda
    I would soak in the tub with Epsom salts sometimes but my physical therapist recommended against heat. He said it could add to the inflammation in the knee. It did help with the muscle soreness I would get elsewhere because I was altering my gait to try to ease the knee pain. Following activity or exercise, I always iced. I used to keep four bags of a mixture of 1/3 rubbing alcohol and 2/3 water in the freezer. It is a little more slushy and conforms to the contours of the knee. One on front and one on back.
    They make a wrap that you can fill with ice water too.

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    Great discussion! I've never been diagnosed with arthritis, but I've had joint pain since I was a teenager. It's always worse when I don't get enough sleep and it took me years to figure out it was worse if I've had caffeine. I'm frustrated that going Primal (since Oct. 2012) hasn't made it go away which I was hoping it would. I'm going to have to do some research on D3 and bone broth. I tried a magnesium supplement with horrible results. It acted as a diuretic and after two full days of taking it I woke up one night with kidney pain that was relieved when I went to the bathroom. I threw away my magnesium the next day!

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