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    oh beer, have not had you in a while...

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    Over the year I have been primal, I happily gave up many "foods." Ice cream, rice, corn, potatoes; those things are gone for good and are not missed at all. One thing I still think about from time to time, however, was one of my favorite indulgences: beer.

    I don't drink beer for two main reasons. First, I keep a low carb count every day, except from time to time once or twice a month when I do a carb refeed with sweet potatoes, carrots, and butternut squashes after a lifting workout.

    Second, gluten; I don't really tolerate gluten too well from what I remember, and I don't bother testing it out because it is simply not worth it. I know that [real] beer is brewed with barley, and barley has gluten in it. I also hear that the gluten in barley gets transferred to the brew even in fermentation.

    There are gluten free beers out there, but I have never bothered to try those. I'm wondering what you all prima beer drinkers out there think, assuming that you exist! Is the gluten free stuff worth a try? Is there a huge no-no in drinking beer? It is really no big deal if I cannot drink beer, but I'm just wondering
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    My fianace has had a gluten-free beer. He tried Red Bridge, and he said it wasn't great and didn't have much of a flavor. St. Peter's is supposed to be good, though. They are both made from sorghum, so not really primal, but at least not gluten.

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    I will definitely have a beer or two on occasion, but I've gotten to the point that anymore than 2 and they stop tasting good. Other than Guinness, which I have a seemingly unlimited tolerance for, I stick with 2 Yuenglings, then switch to whisky or red wine.

    I have also been wondering about the sorghum brews.

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    I've been living with celiac for a few years (much longer than I've been primal). My fave GF beer is La Messagere Red Ale, but you may not be able to get it in the US--it's a Canadian one. In my experience, some of them are pretty good, and some are awful. Try a few and see if you find one you like. I noticed when I was in the US that a lot of the GF beers there are sold in singles, so that's better for sampling than having to buy a six pack.

    One thing: GF beer is expensive. A six of my fave is about $20. For me, it's worth it as a treat once or twice a year. I was a beer snob before my diagnosis, and sometimes in the summer, I just really want a beer, y'know?
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    I thought beer was ok. I thought I heard that the fermenting process got rid of it. I remember Dr. Cordain mentioned it was ok to have a beer. Is it that just one beer has so little that it is ok? I am asking because I regularly have A FEW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by New Renaissance View Post
    I will definitely have a beer or two on occasion, but I've gotten to the point that anymore than 2 and they stop tasting good. Other than Guinness, which I have a seemingly unlimited tolerance for, I stick with 2 Yuenglings, then switch to whisky or red wine.

    I have also been wondering about the sorghum brews.
    +1. When I do have one, which is rare now, I have a really good one, and I drink slowly. Really, being primal has gotten me off of alcohol - I was never a lush, but, looking back, I drank too much.

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    This has some good info (in case you haven't seen it).
    http://www.marksdailyapple.com/low-carb-alcohol/

    I swore I wouldn't give up Guinness when I started eating Primal! I mean, come on. That's just torture.

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    Beer has gluten in it. Lectins are SUPPOSED to be made less harmful by fermentation, though a celiac would tell you that the process is not completely effective.

    I only drink one kind of ale. I drink too much of it, clearly. I sure do love it, and I would never be bothered to drink a gluten-free here.

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    First of all, gluten-free beers are not low-carb beers. They are beers made from gluten-free ingredients. As far as I know, the carb contents are similar.

    For celiacs, regular beers are not safe at all. In fact, my reaction to beer was one of the clues that gluten was the problem. Other alcoholic drinks such as wine do not produce the same reaction. The fermentation process does not get rid of the gluten in beer. However, distillation does remove gluten, so whiskey is considered acceptable (as long as no malt flavouring is re-added to it after distillation).

    Beer may be better tolerated than wheat by some primals, but for those of us who have full-on celiac, it's an absolute no-go, thus the increasing availability of GF beers on the market allows us to cheat too.
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    ***I do drink wine and/or beer every day, even while swimming. This gives me a special power and relaxation I could not live without***

    Last year on April 8th, Slovenian marathon swimmer Martin Strel became the first man to swim the entire length of the Amazon River from headwaters in Peru to the Brazilian port city of Belém: 3,274 miles. It took him 66 days with a support crew of near twenty people following him in a boat for protection.

    He’d already conquered the Danube, the Mississippi, and the Yangtze. In 1997, he became the first to swim non-stop from Africa to Europe, and he did it in 29 hours, 36 minutes, and 57 seconds… without a wetsuit. WTF? Seven swimmers had attempted it before and all had failed.

    The Amazon was different. As the “Fish Man,” as the locals called him, reached the finish line at Belém, he had to be helped to his feet and ushered into a wheelchair amidst a cheering crowd. His blood pressure was at heart-attack levels and his entire body was full of subcutaneous larvae. But he lived to tell the tale.

    I recently caught up with Martin about how he trained for and accomplished this feat… Don’t miss the excerpt at the end, which I included specifically for those of you — like me — who don’t quite fit in with the masses.

    1) What were the biggest challenges you faced on the Amazon swim?

    The biggest challenges were:

    –Dealing with pirates; trying to not come into their hands.
    We tried to go through their territories unnoticed, and use local people and their knowledge to help us.

    –Piranhas, snakes, spiders, candirú, bull shark or other animals which make unpredictable attack; you have to be ready all the time if any piranha attack you. We had some buckets of blood ready in case of emergency, to distract the piranha and get them away from me if necessary. We saw a deadly bushmaster snake, but luckily I didn’t step on it. If I had stepped on it I would have been dead in less than an hour.

    –Malaria, dengue and other unknown infections I could easily get in such a water/jungle environment. It looks like I have an “iron” body and very good immune system.

    –Floating debris; I tried not to touch any of the debris floating downstream as it might carry a snake, spider, red ants or any other poisonous animals

    –Peeing; I didn’t pee into the water straight as this attracts a very dangerous fish called the candirú, which lodges up human orifices with a razor-like spike and then sucks your blood. I was peeing all the time through the wetsuit.

    2) How do you train for preparation?

    Yearly I do 400 training sessions in the pool, ocean and rivers, 100 cross country ski sessions, 75 hiking and 75 gymnastic sessions. I train from 3 to 5 hours a day. Beside physical training I also do mental training in the forest around the fire or along the river banks. I try to get the energy from river flow and then turn it into my desire. It works pretty well if you are able to make it happen.

    3) What’s more important: physical or mental power?

    On my swims I’d say mental power. It is true it does not work with great physical training but I do strongly believe that there are many other good swimmers who could swim as I do, but they do not have their mind ready. And this is mental strength where I am really good. I could not do such great swim 20 years ago when I was much younger, now I can do it. And the reason is I am now mentally matured.

    4) What do you eat and drink while swimming and recovering?

    I eat regular food from soups, pastas, carbohydrates, fruit, vegetables to meat. I do not eat much meat because it is too heavy for me to swim afterward. Besides this I also consume a lot of liquid. Mainly I drink energy drink from Gatorade, Enervit and Spring Of Life. I do not drink “energetic bombs” like Red Bull. And I do drink wine and/or beer every day, even while swimming. This gives me a special power and relaxation I could not live without.

    5) Did you ever come close to giving up on the Amazon swim?

    Yes, there were moments I was thinking of going home. First one was right at the beginning when our main escort boat got stuck into the mud and I was far away on the river alone with the small navigating boat. A logistical problem.

    There were also hundreds of daily organizational/logistical problems from the beginning and lots dangerous places on the river that I could drown. And i was afraid to continue. I was asking myself if I chose too big challenge this time, and if I might never make it and lose my life.

    But at the same time, I got the positive, bright answer: NO. I want to conquer all these obstacles and stay alive. I wanted to show the world how important is to keep this place of the world clean and undestroyed, and at the same time achive the my mission that has never been done.

    6) What goes through your mind when you are on a long swim?

    While I am swimming long distances I am rolling very interesting different films and stories in my head in order to forget about swimming and pains that I have in my body. Basically I am like a robot and if someone suddenly “wakes me up,” I usually get angry, because I fall out of my concentration. This “robot stage” is an ability of high-level concentration, which works like hypnosis. So I could say that if you want to forget your pains and action you have to know how to put yourself into hypnotism.
    This hypnotized stage could last up to one hour on my swims and I can repeat several times a day. I needed many years to train/teach myself how to do it. I could not do this when I was younger.

    Otherwise, I think about everything. It’s difficult to just swim. I talk with myself and animals around me for many hours, play guitar in my mind, talk to God, talk with my wife. I believe when I was talking to my wife in the middle of the Amazon, she knew, thousands of miles away in Slovenia.

    7) What is life like after completing a big swim? How do you get motivated to do it again?

    My feelings are dreamlike. I worked hard, trained hard, and dreamed that someday, I would swim in the great Amazon river. Now my dream has come true. I feel that my mission in life is fulfilled, and should I pass away tomorrow, I am satisfied.
    If there is another project I am going to take on, it will have to be an absolute new challenge for me. I have done the greatest rivers on earth. The only way you can devote yourself completely is to challenge yourself to do something unbeaten.

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