Coffee and weight loss page 5

[davem]

Do I think they should look though? Yes and no. Those researchers in particular? Not sure, but it's probably not their expert domain, so no. Researchers at large? Sure - because until they do, internet marketers will make money on both sides of that argument until there is a body of knowledge available.

Multiple doses a day, 80mg of caffeine a day is an espresso, having 3-5 of those a day throughout the day would give you a longer burn than 2 cups of coffee for the same amount of caffeine intake - which is better? Which is worse? Also, can our adrenals really "get exhausted" in our normal lives? Anyone who has sat for a tattoo can attest to temporary adrenal failure, but a system like that is so important, I don't think we could really exhaust it's ability to work.

[Paleobird]

I am under strict orders from my neurologist to avoid caffeine like the plague due to a seizure disorder. My father is also under a zero caffeine ban from his cardiologist due to a heart rhythm issue, also neurological.

Yes that is only n=2 and you can say well I don't have heart problems or seizures. True, but if coffee can push my brain over the edge into a seizure or push my Dad's heart into tachycardia, do you really think it can be considered good for other people?

I didn't use to have seizures and my Dad didn't use to have heart problems but we were both big coffee drinkers. I think the best that can be said for coffee is that is is something your body can tolerate if otherwise healthy for some period of time. It can and does catch up with some people some times.

*ducking now to avoid flames from coffee lovers who's last cup will be pried from their cold dead hand*

[davem]

Yes that is only n=2 and you can say well I don't have heart problems or seizures. True, but if coffee can push my brain over the edge into a seizure or push my Dad's heart into tachycardia, do you really think it can be considered good for other people?

Yup, one could say that, but then they don't pay respect to the fact that we're all different.

I get migraines and have non-malignant tremors in my hands primarily... my neuro has me under a drink coffee order if either of these happen or in the case of the tremors become bad. When I asked him why, he mumbled something about the brain being a mystery and that it would open up constricted arteries/ veins.

Then again, wth do I know, I make video games. It's fun to read through this kind of stuff though.

[Paleobird]

Yup, one could say that, but then they don't pay respect to the fact that we're all different.

I get migraines and have non-malignant tremors in my hands primarily... my neuro has me under a drink coffee order if either of these happen or in the case of the tremors become bad. When I asked him why, he mumbled something about the brain being a mystery and that it would open up constricted arteries/ veins.

Then again, wth do I know, I make video games. It's fun to read through this kind of stuff though.

Yes caffeine is a vaso-diolater. That's why it is in Excedrine. I wouldn't think that taking Excederine every day would be very good for anyone's health.

[Sue]

I am under strict orders from my neurologist to avoid caffeine like the plague due to a seizure disorder. My father is also under a zero caffeine ban from his cardiologist due to a heart rhythm issue, also neurological.

Yes that is only n=2 and you can say well I don't have heart problems or seizures. True, but if coffee can push my brain over the edge into a seizure or push my Dad's heart into tachycardia, do you really think it can be considered good for other people?

I didn't use to have seizures and my Dad didn't use to have heart problems but we were both big coffee drinkers. I think the best that can be said for coffee is that is is something your body can tolerate if otherwise healthy for some period of time. It can and does catch up with some people some times.

*ducking now to avoid flames from coffee lovers who's last cup will be pried from their cold dead hand*

Is the coffee avoidance because of this:
"Anti-convulsive medications such as oxcarbazepine, topiramate, valproate and carbamazepine are common medications prescribed to treat seizures. One of the side effects of anti-convulsant medications is tremors. A drug-induced tremor results in involuntary shaking. Tremors can also be caused by caffeine. However, drug-induced tremors are worsened by caffeine use, according to Drugs.com. Since the symptoms of tremors resemble those of seizures, tremors may be misidentified as seizures. This is potentially dangerous since medical decisions such as type of medication are based on the frequency of seizures. As such, an effective medication could be mistakenly stopped due to tremors exacerbated by caffeine"

"Caffeine consumption also has a direct effect on your nervous system. It can make you feel anxious, restless, jittery and dizzy. Therefore, if you are prone to seizures, you might want to exclude caffeine from your diet."

Read more: Caffeine & Seizures | LIVESTRONG.COM

[Saoirse]

i'm really not a huge coffee drinker, only started a year or two ago and as i mentioned before, i've cut down substantially because i didn't like it as a habit. had my cuppa joe today though.

i think we're all built slightly differently. what works for some might not work for others. i know there are correlations between high coffee consumption and low risk for certain diseases (like diabetes- which i have a familial disposition for). so it seems that the scientific community may be unsure if coffee consumption is a boon or a bane to the health of the population IN GENERAL.

[Paleobird]

Is the coffee avoidance because of this:
"Anti-convulsive medications such as oxcarbazepine, topiramate, valproate and carbamazepine are common medications prescribed to treat seizures. One of the side effects of anti-convulsant medications is tremors. A drug-induced tremor results in involuntary shaking. Tremors can also be caused by caffeine. However, drug-induced tremors are worsened by caffeine use, according to Drugs.com. Since the symptoms of tremors resemble those of seizures, tremors may be misidentified as seizures. This is potentially dangerous since medical decisions such as type of medication are based on the frequency of seizures. As such, an effective medication could be mistakenly stopped due to tremors exacerbated by caffeine"

"Caffeine consumption also has a direct effect on your nervous system. It can make you feel anxious, restless, jittery and dizzy. Therefore, if you are prone to seizures, you might want to exclude caffeine from your diet."

Read more: Caffeine & Seizures | LIVESTRONG.COM

It is not just about tremors. Caffeine can actually cause a seizure in someone who is prone to them according to my neurologist.

[SugarBaby]

Everything I've been reading about diabetes, blood glucose, insulin indicates caffeine in excess causes a rise in insulin. I know when I do my morning blood glucose testing, if I don't have coffee with caffeine it stays in the "usual" range, but if I do regular coffee I get about a 5 point spike. You could test your bg and see if you get a reaction--home test sytem is inexpensive.

[Sue]

It is not just about tremors. Caffeine can actually cause a seizure in someone who is prone to them according to my neurologist.

Excessive caffeine can increase frequency of seizures, caffeine can interact with medication. Caffeine is dehydrating and dehydration can cause seizures in those prone. Good reasons to ditch the caffeine.

[Saoirse]

Everything I've been reading about diabetes, blood glucose, insulin indicates caffeine in excess causes a rise in insulin. I know when I do my morning blood glucose testing, if I don't have coffee with caffeine it stays in the "usual" range, but if I do regular coffee I get about a 5 point spike. You could test your bg and see if you get a reaction--home test sytem is inexpensive.

oh i don't have to test, this is one reason why i only drink occasionally now. i have to have a full meal before drinking coffee to prevent that icky feeling. not a problem as i usually have a nice meat-filled breakfast, or i just stick with SWP decaf.