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    SeanBissel: Dont get me started on tetanus shots. Did you know that within the last 10 years, the pharmaceutical industry released "contaminated" tetanus shots that contained the same chemical used to sterilize sexual predators in prison. Somehow, that does not seem like a harmless accident.


    HPV Vaccine information:


    http://vran.org/in-the-news/hpv-huma...ardasil%C2%AE/


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    There is a difference between staying informed and open about new data regarding the risks behind vaccines, and rejecting vaccination all together.


    I think that the uncertainty about vaccination is, in the vast majority of cases, tremendously counterbalanced by the potential benefits it brings.


    Skepticism is also, imo, a very misused word.


    On Skepticism: http://tinyurl.com/mh6wwu


    Overview of the issue: http://tinyurl.com/la2mjy


    "The 14 studies": http://tinyurl.com/l56uqj


    Analysis of the 14 studies: http://tinyurl.com/ctly3h


    More:

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    http://tinyurl.com/nj2hug

    http://tinyurl.com/ozkvpe

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    The depth of your ignorance amazes me. Yes, the holocaust was a hoax and the government is trying to poison your children. I'm done with this thread.


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    Ignorance? Why? Simply because someone stated their opinion?


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    All I've gotta say is that we'll never know 100% about anything, and that's why we're always learning.


    All we can do is do the best with the info we have.


    That being said...


    I've been to a couple of the concentration camps in Germany.


    Sure seemed pretty real to me... Pretty disturbingly real.

    -Sean


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    Not saying the holocaust didn't happen, just that there is an interesting and thought provoking counter point to it. This isn't the forum or the thread to discuss that or these conspiracy theories (which I find fascinating):


    - Oil is actually a renewal resource

    - Global warming is a farce

    - The Federal Reserve should be audited

    - The housing market isn't at the bottom yet

    - Kenneth DeLay isn't really dead!


    -bcreager


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    hrm... ok. i think we got a little off topic.


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    My opinion is pretty much exactly like Pellegrina's. I had homebirths, anti-circumcision, extended breastfeeding, homeschooling....but I got my kids vaccinated with the MMR and DPT shots.


    I live near Sebastopol, which is sort of a hippie community in Sonoma County, California. They mostly don't vaccinate, and every couple of years they have another outbreak of measles or whooping cough. I know a mom who's son has seizures caused by the lack of oxygen when he had whooping cough.


    It's all about the risk/benefit ratio, and I believe the benefits of vaccines outweigh the risks. But even though their lack of vaccinations puts my kids at greater risk, I'm still very uneasy about taking away a parent's choice to do as he/she sees fit.


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    Dragonmamma,


    Let me derail this thread even more than we've already done!


    My wife's dad spent a lot of time in Sebastopol, and now has a home in Tehachapi. (I know what you're sayin about the hippie community But it sounds like a cool place!


    I wanna visit Tehachapi some day. Sounds pretty interesting.

    -Sean


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    Phew. I think maybe the holocaust deniers need to take a hike and go post about vaccines on Stormfront or something. Technically I think this thread makes reading Mark's Daily Apple a crime in Germany, too, and we don't want to exclude the Germans.


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