It's an MLM scam, aka "capitalist cult."
The MLMs have tirelessly searched every health angle they can for decades to find more ways to sink the hook. Some of them actually do their homework, but stuff is typically priced 2-3 times what it's worth, and it's only a matter of time before the next "oh wow THIS stuff is what you HAVE to have" thing gets replaced with another.
One thing they all have is common is the religious/cultlike fanaticism that people making a cut off it have for the flavor of the week. I know some people that got sucked into the Bionix craze, and it sounds about the same.. It's unique, it's patented, this is the ONLY real deal antioxidant, blah blah.
Don't get near that stuff.
Has anyone noticed how this thread has attracted some suspicious people with 1 or 2 posts?
Another thing you get when the MLM cult comes knocking is posers and sockpuppets!
I've been off and on this forum for some time. I hope that will lend my a tiny bit of credability. I just wrote a message and lost it. And now I'm tired, but wanted to still reply. I was actually curious if anyone here was talking about it.
I personally have tried protandim. I tried the ingredients purchased seperately as well. I got completely different results. When on the product I have had a major reduction in pain (ballet related), I've had a change in complexion (commented on by friends and family), a change in thyroid function (confirmed by medical labs), and a change in energy levels, noticed by my spouse enough that he asked for whatever I'm taking. He has only noticed that he's not tired even when he works 15 hour days. Oh, and he had KP on his skin, that we just noticed was gone. And he's done nothing extra for that...
Could this be a co-inky-dink. Sure. Maybe it was just time for our bodies to auto correct???
I was so impressed however, I did sign up to be a distributor. I'm also degreed in biz, and I'm quite aware that a pyramid scam is when you take $$ and you don't give a product or service back in return. MLM's are a legit way to function in the biz world. They also offer a major degree of flexability, that a regular job does not. They also offer impressive income potential regardless if education and experience. How is this a bad thing?
I have passed this product on to friends. Friends whom we could tell if it was "working" or not. People being treated for fybromyalgia, ADD and diabetes. All have reported impressive experiences. One has been able to quit taking over $200.00/month in RX and supplements. Another was able to take her child of ADD meds. The diabetic just feels better! These are friends that I'm happy to see FEEL better.
Could their experiences be a co-inky dink... sure... their bodies could have just auto corrected???
There are currently over 20 universities funding their own trials with Protandim, not its ingredients. Including the US Navy on their seals. I SURE HOPE, they aren't just blowing money for the sake of some MLM. I mean we're not talking about a huge powerful company here. There are no people that work at corp. that anyone would know or care about, or who has political power. I gather , rather they are passionate about the diseases they are studying and would LOVE to come up with something for the people that suffer from them. They are not BIG pharma trying to keep people ON expensive meds. However, big pharma is currently working on 2 meds that do the same thing. They are disease specific. I doubt they will cost $40.00 a bottle.
There's a doctor out there that has studies his own patients on and off protandim. He has seen their defficiences virtually disappear.
I currently take protandim, Vit D and Omega 3s.
I'm happy to share more info. But not interested in picking up customers here. I like my privacy. If you want to try it, perhaps you know someone who sells it. And I will tell you, the autoship IS the cheap way to buy it, and it is VERY EASY to cancel. No one is going to keep charging your card for ever and ever. I've also had some friends who don't feel any difference and they don't see the need. To cxl the product you just have to make a phone call and long as it's not the day of your autoship, the computer just sends that out... you're off of it! Simple as that!
If however, you run into a person that is just a loon, and starts making "cure" claims with it... or brow beats people into signing up... you can report that to the company! They will remedy the situation!
Please consider: In the same way that being Primal is not just some crazy insane diet fad, like SO many out there, there really are some solutions to some major ills, and they really are quite simple in hind site. And shouldn't that be the way of it?
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Reason: Crap... no spell check. Protandim does not cure the inability to spell! Going to bed now!
PS... it's NOT an antioxidant supplement. It's a Nrf2 activator. The short of it. It causes your body to make the enzymes that you naturally make but quit making as you age. They are totally bio-avail. No need to swallow a bunch of antioxidants. And you can't EAT enough to battle the amount of free radicals that fire off in your body every day. That's why you look older. YOU'RE NOT KEEPING UP!
bump on this one guys. seems as tho the majority of this thread is mlm vs everyone else. can anyone chime in on anymore postivies or negatives on protandim?
The product or promotor, no idea.
Looked at a couple of the studies wasn't impressed with the design or results.
Is there a specific condition that it is formulated to fix?, The only "fix it all" known to humanity is Snake Oil.
Is the US military using it? This would be a perfect application, full output for days on end and no fatigue.
What about Olympians and sporting organisations? elite atheletes would be the go, that's where even micro seconds count.
I could go on, but something that allows you to continue straining muscles repeatedly day after day is probably not a good idea.
Just recently I did some searching around on anti oxidants and the fact is that given a good diet, there is absolutely no benefit in any of them, if anyone thinks they can do a better job than nature can in balancing the human bodys needs, then they are delusional.
Did we evolve dining under the antioxidant & multivitamin tree with conveniently packaged bottles containing 60 capsules dangling from it's limbs?
Basically if you have an identified deficiency, then do your best to address it with supplementation, providing you have a healthy diet & lifestyle, otherwise it's just a waste of money.
Any supplement should be specific to a condition and treated the same as a Medication.
I am waiting now for the next scam selling us "Free Radicals", they are the Guerilla force we need to rescue our bodies and boost our metabolism.