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    "I was wrong about veganism. Let them eat meat – but farm it properly"

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    This will not be an easy column to write. I am about to put down 1,200 words in support of a book that starts by attacking me and often returns to this sport. But it has persuaded me that I was wrong. More to the point, it has opened my eyes to some fascinating complexities in what seemed to be a black and white case.

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    Thank you.
    Recovering vegetarians could use a support/yahoo group or something.

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    Veganism has another serious problem. Their Gallbladders which require regular fatty foods to function can atrophy on a vegetarian diet, leading to Gallstones and to surgery to remove the gallbladder.
    http://www.second-opinions.co.uk/gallstones.html

    The human being spent 2 million years eating fatty meat, and was never intended to be a vegan.

    Much more here on Gallstones:
    http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum...read.php?15087

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    Have a word with yourself birdie

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    Posted it to my Facebook and already my vegan friends are up in arms about it.
    Primal eating in a nutshell: If you are hungry, eat Primal food until you are satisfied (not stuffed). Then stop. Wait until you're hungry again. Repeat.

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    Thanks, SS. Just posted to my facebook too.



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    This went straight up on my Twitter and Facebook pages... great link.
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    Cue vehement vegan rage ESPLOSION. Insert hyperbolic statements about genocide and malevolent puppy torture combined with self-righteous condescension and personal attacks.

    B-b-b-b-but if being a vegan doesn't automatically make me a better person than everyone else, whatever will I do?

    edit: also I love how they think that feeding humans what feedlot cows eat is a good idea. Hey but I guess if you're a martyr then you better do it right and make it hurt.
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    Stabbing conventional wisdom in its face.

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    I was a vegan for about 1 1/2 years, because I'm very much into animal rights (and I love veggies). But I failed to thrive on it and a lot of the health problems which were compounded and made worse (which I now understand was from eating all that grain). I returned to eating meat and after some adjustment, I felt much better with less problems. Switching to Primal cleared up all those health problems for good and I THRIVE on it.

    I bought a few meat rabbits for $10 the other day and had to kill and butcher them myself (first time for me). And I hated doing it. It's not easy reconciling being a predator and a compassionate and aware being who loves animals.

    But at the same time, I feel good knowing my dog and I are eating fresh, natural, ethically raised meat. Being unemployed and with very little money, $10 for three rabbits that will feed me and the dog wholesome for two weeks was too good to pass up. And I hardly wasted anything. The blood, organs, heads, and feet went to the dog, the roasts are in the freezer for me, and the pelts will be tanned and sold to friends of mine who can use them for art and clothing projects.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Longtail4711 View Post
    I was a vegan for about 1 1/2 years, because I'm very much into animal rights (and I love veggies). But I failed to thrive on it and a lot of the health problems which were compounded and made worse (which I now understand was from eating all that grain). I returned to eating meat and after some adjustment, I felt much better with less problems. Switching to Primal cleared up all those health problems for good and I THRIVE on it.

    I bought a few meat rabbits for $10 the other day and had to kill and butcher them myself (first time for me). And I hated doing it. It's not easy reconciling being a predator and a compassionate and aware being who loves animals.

    But at the same time, I feel good knowing my dog and I are eating fresh, natural, ethically raised meat. Being unemployed and with very little money, $10 for three rabbits that will feed me and the dog wholesome for two weeks was too good to pass up. And I hardly wasted anything. The blood, organs, heads, and feet went to the dog, the roasts are in the freezer for me, and the pelts will be tanned and sold to friends of mine who can use them for art and clothing projects.
    you are the most courageous ex-vegan I ever heard of!! you killed them yourself?! you go girl, all my respect to you!!

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