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    My wife is doing the challenge along with me and we have all been having our cravings. I was commenting to her that within this first week she has been sneezing and coughing MUCH less than she usually does. She almost always does both when she goes to bed and when she wakes up in the morning, but I would say it has decreased by no less than 80% since following the PB nutrition for just the first week.


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    This morning she broke down and had some waffles with butter and syrup and her reaction was significant and almost immediate. Within 5-10 minutes of eating the processed grain and sugar she had what appeared to be a full blown allergic reaction similar to what someone might experience with "hay fever." She was coughing, sneezing, had a runny nose, felt tired... it was quite shocking. She got back on the PB plan for the rest of the day and the symptoms were gone.


    Just an interesting incident I thought I would share.


    Hope everyone is doing well with the challenge!


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    Has it put her off having waffles and syrup again? (I would hope so, but some people are stubborn!)


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    Wow


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    Huh, the hay fever type symoptoms are really interesting! Immediate negative reinforcement should work wonders I haven't caved to grains yet, but just too much sugar gives my tummy problems...I don't really want to know what would happen.

    You are what you eat,
    and what you eat eats too - Michael Pollan


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    Makes one wonder how many other people are suffering with undiagnosed, mild, chronic allerges or inflammations...


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    This sounds a lot like me. I used to cough and sniffle after meals and snacks to the point my parents thought I had some chronic disease and sent me around to a few specialists who couldn't find anything wrong at all.


    Went to an allergist who tested me and found I had low level allergies to just about everything they tested for but milk. That wasn't too helpful...


    A year ago I went primal, and I've not had any recurrances at all. When I do cave in and eat some sugar, of course I will have a sugar crash and feel a bit ill. It's definitely good reinforcement to stay on the right path!


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    Since there's three foodstuffs there, it's a bit of a guess which. But my guess would be that it's unlikely to be the butter.


    Was it maple syrup, Imax, or some kind of refined syrup (possibly with flavourings or other additives in, too)? I don't go a bundle on sweet things, but I'd put a small amount - a teaspoon, say - of pure maple syrup on something occasionally. My guess is that would be OK for most people: North American Indians made and ate the stuff pre-contact - and sometimes in quite large amounts, as far as I can tell - and I don't think the Indians were known for their allergies.


    The number one bet has to be the waffles. Did you keep the packet? it might be of interesting to people reading the board to know what's in them, if you did. Anyone's guess what's in those: some kind/s of flour, possibly refined vegetable oils (some of those are quite nasty), spray-dried skimmed milk powder perhaps, possibly pasteurized egg, and then possibly other additives.


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    Wheat, wheat, wheat..... Unless something really weird is going on, it's the wheat. Known major low level allergen. As I stopped eating bread and other wheat carriers, my chronic low level pain went away. Now, I do understand that one subjective case and that I changed a lot of diet all at once makes for poor science, but it fits perfectly.


    Maple syrup, BTW, is sucrose, nothing special. Just like table sugar. I've never heard of sugars causing allergies.


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    Maple syrup, BTW, is sucrose, nothing special.
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    No it&#39;s not just sucrose. Table 1 here:


    http://jchemed.chem.wisc.edu/HS/Journal/Issues/2007/OctACS/ACSSub/p1647.pdf


    Of course what I said was "My guess is that would be OK for most people".


    My guess would be the waffles. But, of course, we don&#39;t actually know what is in the waffles ...


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    I&#39;m also guessing it&#39;s the wheat. I used to have a constant drippy nose, regardless of the weather, and it cleared up once I banished wheat from my diet.


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