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    From Renate Rolle's The World of the Scythians

    Anthropological evidence available to us so far indicates that the Scythians were relatively tall. This tallness is particularly noticeable in warrior burials and those of men of the upper social stratum, who would seem tall even today. They are often over 6 ft (1.80 m) in height, sometimes over 6 ft 3 in. (1.90 m), and have occasionally even been known to exceed 6ft 6 in. (2 m). There is a substantial difference in height between members of the upper social stratum and the ordinary people of, on average, 4–6 in. (10–15 cm). Where men are concerned, height can thus without doubt be interpreted as a mark of social status. This phenomenon can be observed all the way to the eastern extremity of the Scythian world. In the Altai graves all those interred who were from the upper social stratum can be distinguished by their height and powerful bodies. All these men are between 5 ft 8 in. (1.76 m) and 6 ft (1.80 m) tall; the men in the common graves are on average 5 ft 4 in. (1.64 m) tall. Anthropological research has established that these skeletons differ from those of today in their longer arm and leg bones and a generally stronger bone formation.
    So not only tall but with "a generally stronger bone formation" than modern people.

    Their diet was essentially meat and milk, cheese, and koumiss from their herds.

    One ditch around a funerary mound yielded the bones of "35 horses, 14 wild boar and 2 stags" in eleven deposits. Part of the ditch is damaged and built on, so there may even have been more.

    According to the stratigraphic findings the animal remains may have originated either from one large funeral feast or several, although these must have taken place at very short intervals
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    This works out at "14,300 pounds (6,500 kilos) of meat". Ethnographic parallels from Central Asia and Siberia suggest each person at a funeral might consume 11 pounds (5 kilos) of meat a day.

    The koumiss:

    The national drink of the Scythians was "koumiss"—fermented, mildly alcoholic mare's milk. Koumiss is the typical nomad drink which owing to its high vitamin content (especially vitamin C) provided a vital supplement to the Scythians' otherwise unrelieved diet of meat.

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    Always good to read things like this to reaffirm this lifestlye.
    Today is a new day. You will get out of it just what you put into it. If you have made mistakes, there is always another chance for you. And supposing you have tried and failed again and again, you may have a fresh start any moment you choose, for this thing we call 'Failure' is not the falling down, but the staying down.

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    All that evil growth hormone in dairy builds strong teeth and bones, and big scary humans too.

    A scythe is used for the reaping of grain. Any connection?

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    There were giants in those days...

    Seriously. When you consider that the grain eating Egyptians and Sumerians were probably around 5' tall on average... the Scythians and any other nomadic meat eating group of people who's men top 6' plus...will look like giants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grol View Post
    A scythe is used for the reaping of grain. Any connection?
    Nope. It's from the Greek, Skythia. They were called Saca by the ancient Persians and called themselves Skolotoi. Oswald Szemerényi devotes a thorough discussion to the etymology of the word Scyth in his work "Four old Iranian ethnic names: Scythian - Skudra - Sogdian - Saka". The related words derive from *skeud, an ancient Indo-European word for archer (cf. English shoot), hence Assyrian Ishkuzi and Greek Skuth, represent Iranian *skuda (archers), whicn in turn in Scythian was rendered as Skula, (plural; skulata).

    My personal opinion is that these people are ancestrally related to the Norse, Celts and Goths.

    A scythe on the other hand is from the following (via the Etymology Dictionary):

    O.E. siđe, sigđi, from P.Gmc. *segithoz (cf. M.L.G. segede, M.Du. sichte, O.H.G. segensa, Ger. Sense), from PIE base *sek- "cut" (see section). The sc- spelling crept in early 15c., from influence of L. scissor "carver, cutter" and scindere "to cut." The verb is from 1597.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katt View Post
    There were giants in those days...

    Seriously. When you consider that the grain eating Egyptians and Sumerians were probably around 5' tall on average....
    Although Rameses the Great's mummy correlates to a height of around 6′. What you might expect, I guess, he being an aristocrat. No-one who's likely to have access to meat and animal fat in a pre-modern society would pass up on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    Although Rameses the Great's mummy correlates to a height of around 6′. What you might expect, I guess, he being an aristocrat. No-one who's likely to have access to meat and animal fat in a pre-modern society would pass up on it.
    Rameses (19th Dynasty) was also a remnant of the Hyksos, as were many members of the 18th Dynasty. In other words, Asiatic/Semitic. His mummy's remaining hair was tested and has the genes for red hair. Tutankhamun, the last king of the 18th Dynasty has a haplogroup of R1B1A1. This haplogroup is shared with many fair skinned peoples, including the Berbers of North Africa and many Europeans today.
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