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    What about blood sugar?

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    So today I went to Walgreens and picked up a blood-glucose monitor and assorted accessories. I know I'm supposed to check first thing in the AM, one hour after I eat, and two hours after I eat... but then what? I haven't been diagnosed with anything, I just want to see what my food is doing to my body and where I stand. (Though I do have a sneaking suspicion that I'm insulin resistant or prediabetic... just a hunch.)

    So where are these numbers supposed to be? What is a "bad" number to get? Can anyone point me in the right direction?

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    Don't mean to bump your thread and get you excited you might have a response but I an VERY interested in the same answers along with having the same concerns. I am borrowing a friends glucose monitor soon...I NEED to know.

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    This page might help.

    http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes/14045524.php

    This part made me very happy!

    Eliminate breads, cereals, rice, beans, any wheat products, potato, corn, and fruit. Get all of your carbohydrates from veggies. Test your modified meals using the same schedule above. See what impact you can make on your blood sugar by eliminating various high carbohydrate foods.

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    Thank you for the tip! I read it and clicked on the low carb recipe link... aaaaand now I'm dying to try "tuna cakes" since I've been missing traditional crab cakes something fierce!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tooround View Post
    In my ever so humble non-medical-expert opinion, those numbers are too high.

    Optimal fasting (am) blood sugar is around 75, no higher than 85 and imo 85 is too high for fasting. Some here have numbers as low as 65 and they feel fantastic, are fit, lean etc.

    Pre-prandial should be about the same - 75ish
    Post-prandial one hour should be 100 or less
    Post-prandial two hour should be headed back toward 75.

    Here is what William Davis (heartscan) has to say:
    http://heartscanblog.blogspot.com/search?q=prandial

    Another way is to check your blood sugar one hour after completing a meal and keep your after-eating, or "postprandial," blood sugar 100 mg/dl or less . Let's say you are going to eat stone ground oatmeal, for example. Blood sugar prior to eating is, say, 90 mg/dl. One hour after oatmeal it's 168 mg/dl--you know that this is going to trigger insulin and make you fat. Oatmeal should therefore be eliminated.

    Keeping blood sugar to 100 mg/dl or less after eating teaches you how to avoid provocation of insulin. A shrinking tummy will follow.

    To do this, you will need:

    1) A glucose meter--My favorite is the One Touch Ultra Mini ($13.42 at Walmart). It's exceptionally easy to use and requires just a dot of blood. Drawback: Test strips are about $1 each. Accuchek Aviva is another good device. (We've had a lot of problems with Walgreen's brand device.)
    2) Test strips--This is the costly part of the proposition. Purchased 25 or 50 at a time, they can cost from $0.50 to $1.00 a piece.
    3) Lancets--These are the pins for the fingerstick device that comes with the glucose meter. A box should be just a few dollars.

    No prescription is necessary, nor will insurance pay for your costs unless you're diabetic. To conserve test strips, use them only when a new, untested food or food combination is going to be consumed. If you had two scrambled eggs with green peppers, sundried tomatoes, and olive oil yesterday and had a one hour postprandial glucose of 97 mg/dl, no need to check blood sugar again if you are having the same meal again today.
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    As an insulin dependent person with diabetes I can attest to the fact that there is a major debate among diabetics as to what is considered "normal" or non-diabetic blood glucose (BG) numbers. Jenny Ruhl's site(the http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes/14045524.php, one) has some good basic information about it but you need to realize that she's writing for "newbie" diabetics and not for non diabetics. Dr. Richard K. Bernstein, a Type 1 diabetic for nearly 60 years now, has done extensive testing on what BG numbers constitute "normal" or non diabetic. He has arrived at 85 mg/dl as the level of average BG for a non-diabetic person. This is also the level that he recommends for all diabetics as well. His methodology is very primal oriented although not "orthodox" paleo. Check out his website at www.diabetes-book.com for free excerpts of his very well written book. His way of diabetes treatment got my average daily BG down to <100 and resulted in an insulin reduction of 40% daily usage for me. I now continue with a primal WOL as a follow up to his program and have kept my health at optimal levels since. Be aware though that BG is a very personal and unique thing. It will vary considerably from person to person and is influenced by many factors besides food alone.
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    Just to add to what has been said, Walmart has a meter for under $10. The corresponding strips cost 39.00 for a box of 100. They also have a box of 50 for $20, I believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cillakat View Post
    In my ever so humble non-medical-expert opinion, those numbers are too high.

    Optimal fasting (am) blood sugar is around 75, no higher than 85 and imo 85 is too high for fasting. Some here have numbers as low as 65 and they feel fantastic, are fit, lean etc.

    Pre-prandial should be about the same - 75ish
    Post-prandial one hour should be 100 or less
    Post-prandial two hour should be headed back toward 75.

    Here is what William Davis (heartscan) has to say:
    http://heartscanblog.blogspot.com/search?q=prandial
    I love Dr. Davis and think he's been hitting some serious homeruns lately at the Heartscan Blog, but in my equally humble non-medical opinion, I think he's a little unrealistic about blood glucose numbers regarding some of us who struggle with insulin resistance. His numbers could very easily encourage ketoacidosis and all the scary stuff diabetics deal with when blood sugar goes too low. I celebrate every morning I score between 85-90. 36 hours into a pure waterfast this morning I was 88. I think I would have to starve, deplete necessary resources, and make myself sick to achieve his numbers.

    If you do not suffer from dawn phenomenon, and I no longer do, but you have some insulin resistance, be happy under 90 fasted in the morning, under 110 on hour post meal, back under a 100 in another hour. The ADA's numbers are 100/120/140 and they're selling drugs, so a happy medium between the dealers and the fanatics is realistic... for me.

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