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    would you take the statin? Here are my numbers:

    Triglyceride: 34
    Cholesterol: 341
    HDL: 134
    LDL: 200
    TC/HDL ratio: 2.54

    Doctor concerned about LDL. Suggested I take Crestor. Said I am otherwise "fit as a fiddle." I had eaten 2 huge bowls of stewed beef the night before! I'm 31. Blood pressure is great. Body fat is about 14%. Have been eating primally for about 6 months...first time i have ever had high cholesterol!
    Thanks for any advice!

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    Your ratios are fabulous! Demand at least a particle size test: I'd bet your LDL is the big fluffy kind--not a problem. Also, read Griff's cholesterol post: good stuff.
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    what equation did he use? Read griffs thing. and dont take a statin! it will lower your HDL, not good news......

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    I really wouldn't. Make sure that your blood sugar, insulin, and c-reactve protein, and general nutrition status are good and I think you're set. Without a VAP test I can't say much except that dyslipidemia is usually characterized by low HDL and high trigs, which you have the exact opposite of. High cholesterol can be a problem, or it could just be large particles which are generally innocuous. I may be wrong, though. That is awfully high.

    One thing that nobody will disagree with is that statins are ineffective at best for people without heart disease, and harmful at worst.

    There's a good article with a video http://thehealthyskeptic.org/the-hid...-about-statins
    Stabbing conventional wisdom in its face.

    Anyone who wants to talk nutrition should PM me!

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    I have to agree with everyone above...your numbers look great to me!

    Using the Iranian equation:
    (Total/1.19) + (Trig/1.9) - (HDL/1.1) -38 = LDL
    341/1.19 + 34/1.9 - 134/1.1 = 182.64

    Ratios (from Griff's Primer):
    Total/HDL: 341/134 = 2.54 (ideal = 5 or below)
    Trig/HDL: 34/134 = .25 (ideal = 2 or below)
    LDL/HDL: 182.64/134 = 1.36 (ideal = 4.3 or below)

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    cool. thanks. fasting glucose was 60. All I know Is B12, TSH, and chemistry panel 15 (NA, K, etc) were within normal range.
    really proud that i have never required a prescription drug and bummed about being told I need one now. especially when i feel so well and have been recruiting others to this lifestyle!

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    I would try to avoid statins as much as possible. I think the long-term impacts are not studied thoroughly.

    Are you eating a lot of vegetables and some fruits? Select soluble fibers are good for keeping blood lipids in check, you may want to add eggplant, okra, artichoke, plus leafy greens, and limited amounts of apples, pears, and oranges.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cristy View Post
    Triglyceride: 34
    Cholesterol: 341
    HDL: 134
    LDL: 200
    TC/HDL ratio: 2.54
    probably not.

    Here are all of your ratios. They're optimal in every way:
    Total/HDL 2.54 (optimal is ≤3...average is 4.5)
    HDL/Total .39 (optimal ≥ .24, under .24 is low, less than .1 is high risk)
    Trig/HDL .25 (optimal is ≤2)
    LDL/HDL 1.49 (optimal is ≤ 4.3)
    HDL/LDL .67 (optimal is ≥ .4)



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    i hope my numbers look that good! main your Trigs are LOW! thats a really good marker for health. Good job!!!!

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    No way would I take statins with those numbers. High hdl (and yours is about off the charts) and low trigs nearly always indicate large particle size ldl which is neutral or potentially good.

    Not to mention the fact that statins have never been shown to help women whatsoever. If you're a male with a prior heart attack or have heart disease it mayy help and that's not even a guarantee. Your numbers are great. I'm jealous.

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