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    It is well known that Steve Jobs had pancreatic cancer. He also had unorthodox dietary habits. For example, he would fast for a few days or eat only fruits. But recent research has shown that fasting actually retards the growth of cancer cells. So maybe all of the excess fructose from the fruits was a burden on his pancreas (i.e. it increased insulin levels)? Or was it entirely genetic?

    Also I thought high protein diets are correlated with cancer?

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    I thought a ketogenic diet retards cancer/fasting?

    https://news.usc.edu/63669/fasting-t...immune-system/

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    Quote Originally Posted by ifguy12 View Post
    I thought a ketogenic diet retards cancer/fasting?

    https://news.usc.edu/63669/fasting-t...immune-system/
    That article does not seem to mention either ketogenic diets or cancer.

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    That's interesting. Do we know what the control group was fed? It says "normal diet" and "standard chow" but that seems vague.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ifguy12 View Post
    It is well known that Steve Jobs had pancreatic cancer. He also had unorthodox dietary habits. For example, he would fast for a few days or eat only fruits. But recent research has shown that fasting actually retards the growth of cancer cells. So maybe all of the excess fructose from the fruits was a burden on his pancreas (i.e. it increased insulin levels)? Or was it entirely genetic?

    Also I thought high protein diets are correlated with cancer?
    The worst thing seems to be high-sugar diets.

    See the Caveman Doctor (who is an oncologist) on this:

    Caveman Doctor - Caveman Doctor

    Or try his new book:

    Misguided Medicine: The truth behind ill-advised medical recommendations and how to take health back into your hands: Colin E. Champ M.D., Megan K. Mischler, Dan Landoni Photography, Scott H. Nicklos: 9781500675387: Amazon.com: Books

    Or ask "America's Angriest Trainer":

    Vinnie Tortorich

    Or … well, heck .. just google: "cancer sugar". What could be easier than that?


    But as for Steve Jobs, you have to remember that it was not only his terrible diet -- on which see this:

    VeganThink: Dr. John McDougall Explains the Death of Steve Jobs | Weston A Price

    -- that helped carry him off. He was also a high-tech whizz. Imagine what that means. It means you sit up playing with electronic gadgets when you should be sleeping. It means you get exposed to blue-wavelength light after the hours of darkness. it means you're exposed to EMF fields:

    The WORST Place to Store Your Cell Phone | EMF Dangers

    So, yeah, if you want cancer eat "fruitarian," take John McDougall as a medical advisor, and play with high-tech gadgets into the small-hours. Very sad.

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    "A fat free diet generally retards cancer" - Elliot


    A fat free diet generally makes you dead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewis View Post
    The worst thing seems to be high-sugar diets.

    See the Caveman Doctor (who is an oncologist) on this:

    Caveman Doctor - Caveman Doctor

    Or try his new book:

    Misguided Medicine: The truth behind ill-advised medical recommendations and how to take health back into your hands: Colin E. Champ M.D., Megan K. Mischler, Dan Landoni Photography, Scott H. Nicklos: 9781500675387: Amazon.com: Books

    Or ask "America's Angriest Trainer":

    Vinnie Tortorich

    Or … well, heck .. just google: "cancer sugar". What could be easier than that?


    But as for Steve Jobs, you have to remember that it was not only his terrible diet -- on which see this:

    VeganThink: Dr. John McDougall Explains the Death of Steve Jobs | Weston A Price

    -- that helped carry him off. He was also a high-tech whizz. Imagine what that means. It means you sit up playing with electronic gadgets when you should be sleeping. It means you get exposed to blue-wavelength light after the hours of darkness. it means you're exposed to EMF fields:

    The WORST Place to Store Your Cell Phone | EMF Dangers

    So, yeah, if you want cancer eat "fruitarian," take John McDougall as a medical advisor, and play with high-tech gadgets into the small-hours. Very sad.
    Didn't know he had a book out. Thanks, think I might give it a read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Berserker View Post
    "A fat free diet generally retards cancer" - Elliot


    A fat free diet generally makes you dead.
    Can you demonstrate this? When we tried it in a human, the results were quite positive:
    http://jn.nutrition.org/content/16/6/511.full.pdf

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