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    Hi all,

    I am a recent convert from the zone to the primal diet. I think I have a grasp on the protein, fat and carb intake for fat loss.

    Is there a recognizable point or signal where I will know I am in ketosis?

    Once I am close to or have reached my goal BF, and ready to start ramping up the carbs to maintenance levels, is it preferable to ease into it over a few weeks or longer or simply make the change?

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gunnerm109a6 View Post
    Hi all,

    I am a recent convert from the zone to the primal diet. I think I have a grasp on the protein, fat and carb intake for fat loss.

    Is there a recognizable point or signal where I will know I am in ketosis?
    I can feel it. I just feel.....different.

    Having gone out of ketosis this past weekend thought at a fantastic, totally worth it family party, I decided to buy some ketostix to see how long it takes me to get back into ketosis and to test some theories I have about what it takes to keep me in ketosis.....and how I handle wine.

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    You can buy Ketostix at the drug store which allow you to test your ketone level in your urine. They can be unreliable though. Other telltale signs are a metallic taste/bad breath and smelly urine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cillakat View Post
    I can feel it. I just feel.....different.
    Yep. I feel less emotional. I taste it in the back of my mouth. I feel more focused. I confirmed these feelings with stix enough times not to bother with them anymore.

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    Ketosis for me is marked by the following:

    1. decreased appetite
    2. sweeter smelling breath
    3. tons of energy
    4. pink/purple on the ketostix (however, note that many things like time of day, de/hydration level, etc. can impact the color (light pink v. deep purple of the stix)

    Caution, however, when drinking alcohol while trying to get into/test for ketosis. Alcohol shows false positives on ketostix.

    Katherine - I hear you re: the wine. It's a gateway drug (to food) for me, so it's off my list. I find that when I'm entrenched in ketosis, I get one, maybe two cheat meals before I'm kicked out of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Primal View Post
    Ketosis for me is marked by the following:

    1. decreased appetite
    2. sweeter smelling breath
    3. tons of energy
    4. pink/purple on the ketostix (however, note that many things like time of day, de/hydration level, etc. can impact the color (light pink v. deep purple of the stix)

    Caution, however, when drinking alcohol while trying to get into/test for ketosis. Alcohol shows false positives on ketostix.
    Interesting.

    Katherine - I hear you re: the wine. It's a gateway drug (to food) for me, so it's off my list. I find that when I'm entrenched in ketosis, I get one, maybe two cheat meals before I'm kicked out of it.
    So far, the wine hasn't been a gateway to food - ie it hasn't lowered my inhibitions to the point that I eat things I shouldn't, but after I drink even moderate amounts, I don't feel like I'm in ketosis anymore. I just feel....not ketosis-y. And this is with measured amounts.

    Now of course, the last few weekends don't count b/c I drank waaaaayyyyy to much to stay in ketosis no matter what. And this weekend it was *rolls eyes* sangria. ugh. Last weekend was a full bottle of merlot. Last night was three glasses. But my carbs were incredibly low again yesterday.....and today....and i'm starting to feel a shift.

    One thing that I think it happening: ketosis is affecting my sleep.



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    Quote Originally Posted by cillakat View Post
    Interesting.



    So far, the wine hasn't been a gateway to food - ie it hasn't lowered my inhibitions to the point that I eat things I shouldn't, but after I drink even moderate amounts, I don't feel like I'm in ketosis anymore. I just feel....not ketosis-y. And this is with measured amounts.

    Now of course, the last few weekends don't count b/c I drank waaaaayyyyy to much to stay in ketosis no matter what. And this weekend it was *rolls eyes* sangria. ugh. Last weekend was a full bottle of merlot. Last night was three glasses. But my carbs were incredibly low again yesterday.....and today....and i'm starting to feel a shift.

    One thing that I think it happening: ketosis is affecting my sleep.
    Just curious, how is ketosis affecting your sleep?
    Mermaid

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mermaid View Post
    Just curious, how is ketosis affecting your sleep?
    When I'm in ketosis, i'm not sleeping more than 4-6h and have amassed a massive sleep deficit. And yes, I'm really really tired.

    I also started having migraines again and for the first time ever, filled an rx for maxalt. I'm not sure if that's ketosis or 'other'



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