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    Is there a difference between "healthy" fat gain and "sick" fat gain?

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    Hi MDAers,

    I've been wrestling with a concept that hasn't gotten much play in the blogosphere or elsewhere, and I'd love your feedback.

    Here's the gist. In general, in the diet world, it's considered "bad" to put on excess fat and basically "good" to get rid of it/burn it off. This is obviously an oversimplification.

    But I believe we all focus too much on short term fat gains and losses. Some fluctuation in the amount of fat you store is perfectly normal, just as fluctuation in your body temperature is perfectly normal.

    So when DO fluctuations in body fatness indicate fat tissue sickness? That's the question I pondered in this post. I'd be interested in your insights.

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    Well, is it muscle or fat in the weight gain? Gaining weight isn't necessarily a bad thing if it is adding muscle. Weight isn't the best measurement of health, body fat percentage would probably be better. If you are obese, gaining "fat" probably isn't a good idea. If you are extremely skinny, it might be beneficial.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron_Swanson View Post
    Well, is it muscle or fat in the weight gain?
    He said fat...

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    Still, we all assume that somebody overweight on real food is going to be healthier than someone just as overweight on bad food. He just wants some science or proof, etc.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron_Swanson View Post
    Well, is it muscle or fat in the weight gain? Gaining weight isn't necessarily a bad thing if it is adding muscle. Weight isn't the best measurement of health, body fat percentage would probably be better. If you are obese, gaining "fat" probably isn't a good idea. If you are extremely skinny, it might be beneficial.
    True true. I just wonder if it's possible to separate out changes in fat accumulation that are good/benign from ones that are bad. For instance, if an extremely skinny person gained visceral abdominal fat after eating burgers/fries/milkshakes every meal, that would be bad. But he went primal and gained fat in his face and chest so he looked emaciated, taht would be good. Same amount of total fat gained -- two very different resulst and metabolic implications.

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    Your reasoning and logic behind it is true. There is a difference between abdominal fat and "lean" fat gained. The abdominal fat would produce more hormones and cause issues.

    But remember if you are eating primal and exercising you shouldn't be gaining a massive amount of fat weight period unless you have a cortisol imbalance.

    A healthy exercising overweight person is healthier then a sedentary skinny person in most cases.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neckhammer View Post
    He said fat...
    Yeah, but people that only care about a number on a scale aren't really going to care about the difference or they are just going to automatically assume fat. But I guess that's a whole other thread.

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    I don't see how fat stored in a fat cell is inherently harmful, unless the increased weight causes physical stress. Though things that cause weight gain often cause other problems, so obesity associates with illness.

    Fat stored in organs (like the liver) can cause insulin resistance, which can be problematic, so that's probably not a good place to store fat.

    Fat cells with more fat tend to be insulin resistant, which can lead to a higher level of circulating free fatty acids. This could lead to insulin resistance elsewhere. Though insulin resistance may not be inherently bad if within appropriate amounts.

    Also, storage of polyunsaturated fat is bad, but that's a separate topic.

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    I thought too many fat cells causes hormonal responses?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron_Swanson View Post
    I thought too many fat cells causes hormonal responses?
    What do you mean? Can you demonstrate this?

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