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    Joel Fuhrman vs Weston Price

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    Can anyone address and respond to the point brought up by Fuhrman and his followers here.

    I've done quite a bit of research and it appears that these guys have more science on their side than most paleo devotees...

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    They cited epidemiology as evidence. I stopped reading there.

    Correlation is not causation!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elliot View Post
    They cited epidemiology as evidence. I stopped reading there.

    Correlation is not causation!
    What????

    How can you ignore the fact that the longest living cultures in the world (blue zones) all eat a primarily plant based diet?

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    A. I don't think that's true.
    B. Correlation is not causation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giantsbran View Post
    What????

    How can you ignore the fact that the longest living cultures in the world (blue zones) all eat a primarily plant based diet?
    They all eat meat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elliot View Post
    A. I don't think that's true.
    B. Correlation is not causation.
    Thankfully whether you think its true or not does not change the fact that it is.

    Look at the local diets of Ikaria, Sardinia, Okinawa, Loma Linda.... All the blue zones. Educate yourself before making assumptions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbhikes View Post
    They all eat meat.
    Who said they dont?

    However they eat it very rarely. Fish is eaten 1 or 2 times a week and pork/beef usually only once a month.

    Veggies/grains/legumes compose the large bulk of their calories.

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    A. You're describing specific societies that happen to be healthy. Other societies, like the Maasai, subsisted on diets emphasizing animal products. They were also quite healthy.

    B. Correlation is not causation!

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    blergh.

    i skimmed and got to this:

    The dangerous habits of Americans or Europeans who eat only about 5 percent of their caloric intake from fresh produce and the majority of calories from processed foods, does not in anyway make a diet centered on meat health supporting.
    "processed food" does NOT = meat in my house.

    5% of calories in a 2000 calorie daily diet is 100 cals. to get 100 cals in vegetables you'd need 11 oz of, say, broccoli, or an entire head of lettuce, and that considerably exceeds the usda rec for servings of vegetables each day.
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    OP, is someone here telling you not to eat a lot of plants?

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