Last edited by Neckhammer; 07-15-2013 at 11:25 AM.
Oh dear god, the recipe sounds amazing. The crust part especially. Thank you!
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The b12 in yeast is not the b12 in meat, so is that true for the other B vitamins?
Steak, eggs, potatoes - fruits, nuts, berries and forage. Coconut milk and potent herbs and spices. Tea instead of coffee now and teeny amounts of kelp daily. Let's see how this does! Not really had dairy much, and gut seems better for it.
What about the eicosanoids produced from EPA and AA? A diet of only saturated fat apparently favours AA's prostaglandins. Supplementing with omega 3 apparently utilises more of the delta 5 desaturase enzymes so that we don't enter a state where only the 2 & 4 series prostaglandins are produced (pro-inflammatory). If we have some of the D5D being used to produce some of the 3 series PGs (less inflammatory) from EPA it apparently helps to make sure acute inflammation doesn't become chronic. I mean there's plenty of science that shows EFAs are beneficial for this disease and that disease... If they really were that bad I think there would be more evidence other than what a few bloggers express as their opinion (no offence). It just sounds like you've adopted this radical opinion that EFAs are bad and you're trying to hold on to it. First it was the "flawed" Burr study (not accounting for B5 & B6 deficiency that was being used to reinforce "EFAs are bad", clearly they were wrong as I said in my first post... I think I'm guna lean more towards what the majority of the science says unless MORE people can provide proof not just the usual 2 people (choco and paleobird), again not wishing to offend, they provide a lot of interesting info but it seems whenever something big is discussed on this forum it's always only those 2 that chime in with their opinion but not many others... If EFAs are so bad why do you eat meat and nuts? they contain PUFAs that are going "oxidize" in our warm bodies. I guess when I consider I've had an inflammatory problem between one or 2 of my ribs and sternum that started as acute in November 2012 when I stretched and something in my chest went click followed by pain, since then it hasn't gone away and has become chronic despite being pro paleo/anti PUFA & EFA since March. Maybe strictly paleo with sat. fat, no PUFA isn't working as well in me as others.
Thank you all for this thread. Decision made, from this point forward I'm ditching any fish/krill oils and getting my goodness from seafood, which I love.
Sweet, slowly all my supps have been ditched.. the only one I'm taking now is a Mag glycinate
I think you misunderstood Choco. He wasn't saying that naturally occurring PUFAs are bad (although he does go a bit far on the nut phobia at times). His post was about not taking the extracted form in a pill. The Peatarians do go a bit far in demonizing any and all PUFA, IMO. They do the same thing they accuse LC eaters of doing, demonizing a sweet potato in the same category as a twinkie. A piece of fish and some nuts do not belong in the same category as soybean oil.
this article equals BAD but the isoPs from EPA down regulate the former and equals GOOD. These isoprostanes (F2 from AA and F3 from EPA) are not produced via the cyclooxygenase pathway but from "free radical oxidation" of the substrates. So maybe all this talk about these oils being so susceptible to oxidation is beside the point except in the case if the diet is mainly composed of AA producing foods. Free radical oxidation of EPA may better.
The above article and also this article from this year might be worth a read, but a little difficult to understand.