I haven't read pages 2-9. But I read the original message. And it sounds a lot like me. Except for the fact that I don't feel bloated after a bowel movement - and they are diarrhea, not hard. I also tried FODMAP, SCD, etc. I didn't seem to matter what "safe food" I ate - I has bloated. I have seen a GI doc and won't go into what her thoughts were as the tests are in the next few weeks. But here is what I have done which is the only thing that has worked. I essentially stopped eating fiber. This has been brutal because I love vegetables. But it has kept the pain at bay. I seem to be ok with just a few grams per meal. More than that, I'm uncomfortable. Here is a usual day:
BF - farmers cheese (can't be cottage cheese or yogurt for me), 1 serving fried banana chips and 1 serving raisins mixed in.
L - left overs usually - grilled chicken thighs, burger usually with 2 tbsp mayo and 1 tupperware of strawberries
D - salad greens, meat, sometimes winter squash or potato with butter, rice cakes sometimes, it varies.
Doing this for the last few weeks I'm pain free until dinner - I can't restrain myself and usually munch on carrots and then feel a little crappy BUT removing the cauliflower, broccoli, cabbage, pumpkin, etc has really made a difference. I don't enjoy eating this way because I miss veggies, but I can at least keep the pain manageable.
Anyway, good luck.
Thank you for writing this. I've definitely been orthorexic in the past and I guess in some ways I still am. I don't really like to admit I have fears of food but I really do. Even real, whole natural foods.
Originally Posted by Zach
I still think that the SCD intro will be good just because it has structure. I'm also going to stop coconut oil (and all other coconut products). Butter is yummy and far cheaper than coconut oil! I know in it's own right, grass fed butter is a superfood.
I still don't have any interest in junk food. I had some sweets today and they just taste like chemical fake non-food. I'd much rather eat a load of fruit.
Thanks for your help. I'm starting to feel part of a "Paleo community" which is boasted throughout out the media as one of the "benefits"... I never had the realisation as much as I do now that I've super restrictive and it;s not helping at all.
Yep, I'm really looking into the SCD diet. It looks quite simple and contains foods I haven't had a lot of in a long time. I like that it's progressive for specific reasons which aren't just plucked out of mid air. It's researched.
Originally Posted by Neckhammer
I've definitely been orthorexia in the past and I still am in some ways. This all stemmed from mild acne where after each breakout I cut out another food until now I'm left with very little. Junk food doesn't really please me because it's dead, chemical tasting cardboard.
Could you have low stomach acid? perhaps try taking enzymes ( you can get them in tablet form). May help.. worth a try.
It has all stemmed from orthorexia after trying to clear my mild acne holistically. (and dark circles). Each week (which have now turned to months of 'healthy' eating but years of worrying about it) I cut out more foods because that was the only thing I could control.
Originally Posted by YogaBare
I'm frustrated for sure, but I'm not too stressed. I'm confused too. It pisses me off that I eat all of these amazing foods and I'm no healthier than joe bloggs who chugs down garbage all day. This is probably due to gut issues and not being able to assimilate foods.(leaky gut)
Pre-paleo I don't really remember feeling great. I remember binging a lot on junk and that was the only exciting part of eating at that time. (and because I didn't have to pay for it - there's an abundance of junk food at home) Throughout out the journey of trying to eat real food, my skin still hasn't been great. I remember cutting out dairy 5 years ago and whilst that helped a little, I feel my problems now are not going to be anything like those causing acne 5 years ago.
I agree. I love the idea of eating a lot of fruit and cutting out fibrous vegetables but there's not method in working out which to cut out and when. the SCD looks simple and easily doable for me. It's pre-planned and depending on how I feel, I no longer need to focus as much on meal planning myself.
Originally Posted by ombat
I hear it quite often at home that my food choices are crazy. I remember eating green smoothies for months and my family though I was a anorexic hippy! They still probably think I'm a hippy but that's cool. I guess people really can find problems with every food out there and with the amount of "less is more" stuff around, it is, like you said, very easy to go to extremes.
Originally Posted by Zach
FODMAPS are definitely a huge issue for me. They never use to be, I use to eat carrots, cabbage and brocolli at every meal for months on end. (along with fish fingers which is processed fish covered in breadcrumbs). Fibre for me also seems to be an issue. I need to get over my fear os fruit = acne and just eat and enjoy it!
Originally Posted by lorichka6
I'm going to experiment with dairy but in general I don't care for it. (unless it's cheesecake which I haven't eaten for a long time)
Thanks for your post, stay tuned!
I do have low stomach acid for sure. I'm supplementing with NOW foods super enzymes...
Originally Posted by Coconut
04-27-2013, 05:30 PM
Try betein HCl and ice cream. That combo cures everything.
Honestly i think you will find no relief with SCD but good luck anyway. If you ever want to give my advice a try just send me a PM. My advice certainly wasnt plucked out of thin air.