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    Quote Originally Posted by naiadknight View Post
    I mentioned my sulfite allergy and what all that entails, everything I hafta avoid, to a woman trying to help me at the grocery store. I kid you not, her response was "well, just eat it then. You can't be THAT allergic."
    Ummm... WHAT?!
    That's ridiculous. Not to mention rude... I think that many of us are so in tune with our bodies we actually notice it when we feel bloated (and tired, achy, and pimply in my case) after eating something that affects us (wheat! ;c) while everyone else just chalks it up to "eating too much" or "aging."

    That's what I did for years. After a big pasta dinner, my whole family actually always complains of bloating. I wonder if maybe we all are sensitive. I've heard that celts have a high chance of gluten intolerance.

    I was watching a show and one of the ladies brings in pumpkin muffins "gluten free!" The other characters responses were "blech" and "why?"

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    I think it has everything to do with the idea that "if I can eat [that thing you are allergic to], then your allergy doesn't exist." It's the ultimate n=1.

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    I chalked it up to stupidity and walked away. One thing my allergist said is that more people are allergic to sulfites than are diagnosed, because the symptoms vary so widely and are so closely associated with "getting old" and "normal" for your SAD American: headaches, aching joints, inflammation, digestive issues, trouble breathing or asthma attacks, fatigue, foggy headedness, etc.
    It's really not even on you can ask a server about, because the list of stuff it hides in is so damn long. You just hafta know what it can show up in and which words to watch out for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eKatherine View Post
    I blame the environment. I think a major factor (but not the only factor) is maternal nutrition, in particular a low fat/low saturated fat and maybe high PUFA diet during a critical neural development period.
    Quote Originally Posted by UniqueTII View Post
    This is exactly my train of thought with this conversation. Just because something can't be "fixed" with diet doesn't make the diet not responsible in the first place. Another favorite of mine are "hereditary" diseases like heart disease and diabetes where heredity means eating the same garbage as your parents (to some extent).
    The book Deep Nutrition by Catherine Shanahan is really interesting on this subject. She explains really well how what and how we eat affect not only us, but our children and grandchildren, etc.

    Deep Nutrition: Why Your Genes Need Traditional Food: Catherine Shanahan, Luke Shanahan: 9780615228389: Amazon.com: Books
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    More "healthy advice" thanks to social media. She details her transition to plain Greek yogurt instead of artificially sweetened pre-made cups, which is good and gets her to eat healthy things like fruits, nuts and seeds. Then she lists her 14 favorite toppings: strawberry jam and chocolate syrup, cherrios and honey, maple syrup, more honey, pumpkin pie mix, graham crackers, peanut butter and topped with peanuts and chocolate syrup, you get the idea. A few actually did have fruit in them.

    And a second one (I seriously need to get off the computer right after I post this):
    "Every time you go more than two hours or so without eating, your blood sugar drops—and that's bad news for your energy. Here's why: Food supplies the body with glucose, a type of sugar carried in the bloodstream. Our cells use glucose to make the body's prime energy transporter, adenosine triphosphate (ATP). Your brain needs it. Your muscles need it. Every cell in your body needs it. But when blood sugar drops, your cells don't have the raw materials to make ATP. And then? Everything starts to slow down. You get tired, hungry, irritable and unfocused. Grab a bite every two to four hours to keep blood sugar steady. Nosh on something within an hour of waking—that's when blood sugar is lowest."

    ^having been there, done that, no... just no... goodnight all!
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    Not so much funny as sad: on another forum someone was saying that a Finnish friend of hers was horrified that UK advice is to feed children full fat dairy. Apparently in Finland they are told to feed their kids the skimmed stuff and
    make up the calories with vegetable oil!


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    ^ Huh. I believe I read somewhere that all the vitamins and minerals (calcuim etc. etc.) are mostly in the full fat stuff. Skim milk has less vitamins and minerals because apparently when the milk is skimmed, they get taken out as well.
    Just something I read, though. Might not be true.

    CW-moment:
    I decided to see what the "Schijf van Vijf" (the Dutch recommandations for a "balanced" meal) was for me.
    I only had to fill in my age and gender. Not my weight or activity level... (Why not??? Isn't that important? According to the Dutch "Voedingscentrum" carbs are a good source of energy. If I were active on an athletic level, shouldn't I eat more "healthy carbs"?? (mind you, with carbs they mean Potatoes, bread, rice and pasta, not veggies)

    Well, let's see what they have to say:
    Female, 18 yrs old:
    200 grams of vegetables and fruit. (2 pieces of fruit and 4 serving spoons of veggies) well, okay. Not so bad if you ignore the fruit.
    225 grams of carbs (4-5 servings spoons). Blerg. No thanks!
    20 grams of cheese (1 slice.) One frickin' slice. Hello?!?! I thought cheese was supposed to be healthy according to you guys?
    600 ml of milk products (I have no idea how many glasses of milk that would be)
    100-125 grams of meat, fish, chicken eggs and meat substitudes. (I'm starving, guys. I'm starving!!! Gimme my fat!!)
    15 grams of cooking oils/butter. (Which would be about 1 tablespoon. For the entire day.) What do I cook my veggies in, when I've already used that tablespoon for my meat/fish??
    30 grams of halvarine (the fake butter. I'm not even commenting on this one.)
    1000-1500 ml of water. About 1-1.5 litres. That's just about the only thing I agree with, LOL.
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    It ain't makin' me any thinner
    I eat a sandwich for break-fast
    And then I have a sugar blast!
    I eat toasted bread for lunch
    And enjoy my mid-day crunch!
    At dinner I eat pasta
    And end my day with a sugar disasta!"

    From the How am I not starving??? thread. Enjoy the read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Introvert_Huntress View Post
    ^ Huh. I believe I read somewhere that all the vitamins and minerals (calcuim etc. etc.) are mostly in the full fat stuff. Skim milk has less vitamins and minerals because apparently when the milk is skimmed, they get taken out as well.
    Just something I read, though. Might not be true.
    There are vitamins and minerals in skim milk. Whether one's body can absorb it is a different issue. Fat soluble vitamins (D, E, etc) are only absorbed when taken with fat. Then vitamins are usually cofactors for enzymes processing minerals (ex: vit D & calcium) so those minerals won't be absorbed either in absence of fat, because the vitamins aren't.

    Same with spinach. Tons of nutrients there, but whether the human body can readily absorb it is a different story.

    Water soluble vitamins (B, C, etc) can be absorbed anytime. However, it also means excess gets flushed out instead of stored in body fat so to get a good nutritional profile of those over time one should eat a steady supply of food and supplements rich in those.


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    Not so much funny as sad: on another forum someone was saying that a Finnish friend of hers was horrified that UK advice is to feed children full fat dairy. Apparently in Finland they are told to feed their kids the skimmed stuff and
    make up the calories with vegetable oil!
    This is entirely true. There was a study done, I think in the early 1980s here, and I'd have to dig up the name because I can't remember it, but it essentially "proved" that all animal based products, especially dairy, was terrible for your heart health. I haven't actually read this study and knowing how the actual findings of studies get really twisted in the general public, I couldn't say if what the study actually found was a correlation/causality with dairy and heart disease or if there were other life style changes involved with the study groups. However, it's the single bane of our existence here. Every time eating full fat anything comes up when I visit my dad and his GF (especially if there are friends of the GF around as this is when she becomes really condescending) she refuses to listen to anything I have to say about nutrition or anything about my own personal diet based on this single study where the rate of heart disease supposedly decrease with the implementation of low fat food items.
    And a lot of people quote this same study. Especially if they're in the age group of 40-65. This has actually affected my family relations. I just don't think I need to take on that sort of negativity in my life.. even when it costs me a parent.

    So yeah, most of the milk sold in stores (and dairy products in general) is low fat or fat free. The milk served in schools is also low fat. Margarine or similar items are recommended by public health officials ALWAYS for weight loss, for treating high blood pressure and diabetes. And people are sicker than ever.
    But it must be all that fat they're secretly eating and lying about, right?

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    Ok, the study that I couldn't remember the name was was the North Karelia Project. So not entirely a study but a multi-faceted project to enhance the general health of the inhabitants of North Karelia (area in the northern part of Finland, between Finland and Russia) that included distributing information on the health risks of smoking, heavy drinking, lack of exercise AND what was at the time known about nutrition and to also extend health care to as many people as possible. From what I've managed to quickly google, the project started in 1972 and included no comparison groups, but was generally considered a success and touted as a prime example of the benefits of low fat nutrition. Apparently the significance of the other variables were almost or entirely overlooked when drawing conclusions just that "we successfully lowered the LDL numbers of the North Karelian population".

    Apparently there were similar projects done in several other countries at the same time that yielded different kinds of results but these have been ignored. Yet another example of positive bias in study publication.

    The study has been published in English as The North Karelia project : from North Karelia to national action (by Pekka Puska et al.). I think I might want to take this out from my local library....

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