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    Can someone have mercy on me today and save me from wading back through these here tater threads? Figured I'd try a few days up to a couple of weeks. Paleo for three months for gout and it's been going great. Potatoes without the peel are an allowed starch for cheat meals according to a nutritionist I've been working with.

    Would this be a correct protocol. No fat or protein. Three kg (or is it pounds?) of potatoes a day. Ketchup allowed as well as salt and other sundry spices. Is there a brand of ketchup that is fructose free? Is broth OK for mashed potatoes? Thanks in advance.

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    Regarding broth I found some chicken broth that's virtually fat free and something like only 10 calories a tin. Crazy stuff, and certainly gets the taters more tasty.

    So yeah, broth.

    Regarding ketchup, presuming small quantities, don't sweat it.

    As for volume, for me I found 3 meals of around 2 or 3 spuds each was plenty enough but really, just go for it. Avoid commercial mash though, that stuff is mega-calories.



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    Quote Originally Posted by james2pro View Post
    Can someone have mercy on me today and save me from wading back through these here tater threads? Figured I'd try a few days up to a couple of weeks.
    Alright! Another guinea pig. My guess is you have been kind of stalled out on PB and you're wanting to kickstart some fatloss, but you are leery of the meat/liver cause of your gout...You came to the right place, and I'll get you started, but you need to get right back on PB when you are done and stay there a long time.

    Go out and buy 25 pounds of the best potatoes you can find, ie. organic, no green spots, local grown. If you choose wisely, you will end up with exactly 50 potatoes.

    When you get home, wash up 10 of them, and peel 5. Wrap the 5 unpeeled potatoes in tinfoil and bake at 375 for 90 minutes or so until they are squeezable. Boil the 5 peeled potatoes in water with a little sea salt added for about 25 minutes. Drain and cool.

    For your first meal, eat a still hot boiled potato with salt and a dab of no HFCS ketchup if you like. Mustard is OK, too. A little raw onion, OK. You can mash it and eat it like baby food or you can slice it and eat it like chicken McNuggets. Alternatively, you can heat up a no-stick frying pan and turn it into crispy homefries, then drizzle with vinegar and salt.

    All the rest of your meals will be just like this. Eat as few potatoes as you can just to keep your hunger beast under control. Don't try eating all 25lbs in 1 day.

    Another awesome way to prepare potatoes is to shred them with a cheap-o shredder and piles the shreds in a non-stick waffle maker until they are browned. You can definitely over-eat on these beauties, though! You may find other ways to make plain potatoes, but if you work all day at a 9-5 kinda job, you should find a potato at noon, and 2 or 3 potatoes when you get home will leave you full. If you are a great big guy, try 1 for breakfast, 1 for lunch and 2-3 for supper.

    Eating like this, your 25 pound investment should last you about 10 days and you should lose 5-10 pounds. If you are a heavy lifter or runner, use this 10 days for a 'de-load' week. This diet isn't cross-fit friendly. It's more about burning fat than building muscle, but don't worry--you won't waste away.


    Quote Originally Posted by james2pro View Post
    Paleo for three months for gout and it's been going great. Potatoes without the peel are an allowed starch for cheat meals according to a nutritionist I've been working with.
    I suffered debilitating gout for years on the SAD. I had an attack every 4-6 weeks and would miss work because putting shoes on was impossible.

    I have not had a single gout attack in over 2 years since starting PB. I also had fatty liver disease, high trigs, high BP, and pre-diabetes. All of these were gone within 6 months along with the first 30 pounds. What do I think the culprit was after several years of reflection? Fructose.

    Not the fructose from apples and bananas as I probably could count the fruit I ate in a year on both hands, but the fructose found in Oreos, Keeblers, Little Debbies, white bread, ketchup, bbq sauce, and anything else that says HFCS on it. In retrospect, I was guzzling the stuff. All my problems point directly to fructose overload in the liver, and my 6 pack of beer every night didn't help either. Haven't touched either in 2 years and I feel grrrrrreat.

    You may want to read this Steve Phinney and Richard Johnson: Ketones, Uric Acid, High Fat and Health | Me and My Diabetes
    It's about uric acid increasing on a ketogenic diet. If your are tracking your uric acid levels, they may go up if you try ketogenic diets. Some people get gout because of an inability to clear uric acid, if you are one of these, keto may not be the answer.

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    My gout started in my mid-30s which was also around the time I first did Atkins. I've also tried Protein Power and Dukan. I've been gout free for three months working with a Paleo nutritionist from Rob Sisson's site. She said that potato peels have anti-nutrients and to discard those. I think that I'm definitely an under excretor of uric acid and believe Ian King has a good theory of the need to avoid fructose while keeping the meat in the diet. I'm 280 at 6 foot. I've lost inches but little weight and have been at or above this weight for 10 years, even when doing no carb and 1200 calories a day. No tinges of gout for you with all that starch?

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    Quote Originally Posted by james2pro View Post
    No tinges of gout for you with all that starch?
    Not even a hint! I normally do low carb primal, took a break this summer and ate higher carb primal, mostly added fruit. Put on a few pounds, which was OK, then lost it with potatoes.

    The only time I had a hunt of gout in past few years was when I would eat something, chocolate covered coffee beans, for instance that I later found were packed with HFCS. I routinely eat over a pound of liver in a meal, eat liver at least twice a week, sardines and oysters every day. When I was having gout, my uric acid was just above ref range (like 9, I think). Now it is still high, like 8, but within the ref range.

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    Sorry, that should have been Robb Wolf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by healthy11 View Post
    Lol... yes! I have to agree that 'moar' is a stupid word, but whatever... was awesome that she misspelled a word!!

    Anyways... I came here because I am wondering how people are doing post-potato diet? I know you guys have posted that you hadn't gained back weight afterwards... is that still the case? I am in a major food funk after being VLC for months. I am making primal cookies and popcorn and nothing sounds good and I'm thinking about giving the potato diet a try to get me out of it. I'm sure a week of potatoes will have me craving meat and veggies again.

    Any backlash post potato diet???
    Not for me. I have been a week prinal again and kept off all the weight

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    Quote Originally Posted by james2pro View Post
    My gout started in my mid-30s which was also around the time I first did Atkins. I've also tried Protein Power and Dukan. I've been gout free for three months working with a Paleo nutritionist from Rob Sisson's site. She said that potato peels have anti-nutrients and to discard those. I think that I'm definitely an under excretor of uric acid and believe Ian King has a good theory of the need to avoid fructose while keeping the meat in the diet. I'm 280 at 6 foot. I've lost inches but little weight and have been at or above this weight for 10 years, even when doing no carb and 1200 calories a day. No tinges of gout for you with all that starch?
    interesting in the paleo nutritionist's take on high protein if you have gout.

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    I'm back on the taters again.

    Last time a full weekof primal with dairy and I didn't put any back on. Yay!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lambchop View Post
    I'm back on the taters again.

    Last time a full weekof primal with dairy and I didn't put any back on. Yay!
    You should try the 20 pounds-til-gone method that tatertot did in his recent post.

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