Also, not directed at Winterbike (who I am quoting) but in general, I get tired of hearing the 'well, we have to pay for you being fat"bullshit. I have to pay for your damned kids to go to school. I have to pay for people to get food stamps, social security, disability. I have to pay farmers to get subsidies, corporations to get hand outs. hell, I pay for 1,000,000 things I don't want every day. So do you. if you think all your money is going to fat people you are out of your mind.