And I also found a lot of really creepy adrenaline/pain junkie sounding Kool aid drinking behavior. (This is only in reference to the folks who say they just can't wait for their next full body ice bath. OOOOh yeah, ice baths. WTF is wrong with this picture?????)
I actually think there may be some merit to cold exposure on the level that Mark was talking about and possibly the spot CTing too, but full immersion in ice water to a normal human being is PAINFUL. It's meant to be painful. It's natures's way of telling you not to do that.
Rational thought has left the building.
I just had bath #3. I can say with all certainty, that I do not look forward to it Perhaps when I start to see some benefit, I will but I would much rather it be a nice hot bath.
Anyways, some weird things happened. My reading material wasnt panning out, I opted for something other than PB-21, so I ended up not as reclined as usual. It was about 1 - 1.5 hours after dinner, about when my internal furnace fires up, so the part in the water was cold, not shivering but I could see goosebumps, and the part that was out was starting to get hot to the point of barely breaking a sweat. Weird, huh? So I was goosebumps and sweating at the same time basically.
I can also see how ppl drown in cold waters. I was trying to wiggle lower, and the thingy I was using to recline against, slipped down causing me to slip down suddenly. Man oh man was it cold. So I gasped a big ole gasp of air. Had that been a frozen lake I fell into, my lungs would have filled with water and I would have surely drown.
Okay, so I was trying to wiggle lower because I had read this afternoon, most of the BAT is in our backs, between our shoulder blades? So that needs to be cold also right? I also read about bitter melon extract, but now I don't really remember why or what it's purpose is in all this, but pretty sure it was in regards to CT.
I did time it this time, and I just wasnt feeling it this evening, so I thought I was getting out way early but still was in there for 35 minutes. So maybe I have been staying longer than I thought. Also, I still only use tap, after first warming up to the idea in nice toasty water. As I was sitting there thinking about the post of using a turkey thermometer and wondering wth that is, and what would I use to check a turkey, then I remembered my meat thermometer. So after I got out, I checked my water and it settled on 66.2. Man, it sure seemed colder. Did I also read somewhere that the skin needs to get to 50 - 55 or something?
Last night, I had trouble getting warmed up. Tonight, I am already starting to get too hot but it is temporary. Already getting somewhat cold again.
I thought of that, too, while enjoying my refreshing, delightful, completely pain-free 50F bath in the Chattahoochee on Sunday. The local Fire & Rescue team pulled up (complete with TV news crew, I know not why?) for training, and the rescuers were in wet suits. How much better could rescues be if the rescuers themselves weren't just as endangered as the rescuees from the cold?
This is imminently practical
And you may not believe it, but it's your words against ours (and especially those doing the super cold) - it. is. not. painful. once you get used to it. I'm not even numb. It's just not painful. It's invigorating.
(Again, I can't speak for 33F CT; haven't BTDT.)
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The pain/adrenaline junkie comment was specifically in reference to the full immersion ice baths which you are not doing like the sane person that I know you to be.
If someone can by repeated exposure to extreme cold (the ice bath kind) turn himself into a cold proof superhuman, that might come in handy if you live in a really cold place such as he does. But by extreme cardio, one can turn into an ultra marathon runner too and be capable of amazing things. I think the two are similar in that extreme stress to the body on a regular basis ceases to be a beneficial stress and just devolves into jacked up cortisol and adrenal fatigue.
There is a fine line between overcoming pain and getting off on the pain. *Some* people on this thread sound like they have gone over that line. Way over.
After a cold shower attempt a few months ago at this thread's inception, I gave up for a while because the shower didn't go very well. (gasping for air, *really* unpleasant) Reading everyone's experiences as well as the perception that a cold bath is heaps better than the shower impressed me enough to try again. So I took a bath tonight; started with lukewarm water and kept adding cold. I'm not sure of the temp but I cooled it to the point of goosebumps and light shivering. Man, I had to fight against clenching all my muscles! I watched a 42 min TV show on the ipad so the time passed fairly quickly. I'm really looking forward to this now! I'm such a weenie when it comes to cold; it would be really nice to have it not bother me so much.
What are the benefits to doing the facedunk outside of the immediate physiological response noted a few posts back? Does it help with long term cold adaptation? I can see that it should have some skin tightening benefits. TIA.
Yesterday, my husband made a comment that since I've started taking cold showers, he's noticed I'm not losing my hair all over the apartment. (I tend to lose strands of hair everywhere, and we have a running joke that living with me is worse than having a dog who sheds everywhere.) This from a man who raises his eyebrows everytime I went for my cold shower and kept reminding me 'be careful'
After just a week, he's already recognizing that this CT stuff is actually doing good things, and he made a comment that maybe if he'd started doing CT years ago, he wouldn't have a receding hairline. Yes, Validation!!!
It was from the measurement across my belly button, so tummy, hips, butt....the areas the most underwater.
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