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    Quote Originally Posted by not on the rug View Post
    I know quite a few nurses (RNs and LPNs) and all of them, except one, smoke. I can't wrap my brain around it. and most of them are clinically obese or borderline obese. what gives?
    I went to the doctor today. Everyone I interacted with was obese. For grins, I brought up my weightloss struggle to the doctor who didn't even have mockable advice. He just let me know that exercise was good for longevity. It was quite possibly the biggest waste of an hour of my life.

    Shit, the guy who inspects my car was more helpful.... he does low carb, lots of protein and is looking great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by not on the rug View Post
    I know quite a few nurses (RNs and LPNs) and all of them, except one, smoke. I can't wrap my brain around it. and most of them are clinically obese or borderline obese. what gives?
    The hours, the stress, eating as you go, have no idea about exercise cause there is a bucket load of walking

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    Quote Originally Posted by not on the rug View Post
    I know quite a few nurses (RNs and LPNs) and all of them, except one, smoke. I can't wrap my brain around it. and most of them are clinically obese or borderline obese. what gives?
    I have seen the same thing with EMS over the years. I think the smoking is often a way of dealing with the stress and it gives you an excuse to step outside of the hospital/clinic and have a few moments of quite. With paramedics/EMT, it was the constant struggle to eat something, anything, between calls. While there is an argument there for packing your own lunch, if your working a 24 hour shift, like I used to, you end up with a really big lunch, and stuff that needs to be kept cold is stuck in the fridge at the station. If your run back-to-back calls, you may not get to eat for half your shift unless you stop for fast food.

    My wife is a nurse and with her it was kind of the same. While she could take her own food, it was often a 12 hour shift, lots of food to prepare and take and it was easier to chill in the hospital restaurant and just eat their junk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by not on the rug View Post
    I know quite a few nurses (RNs and LPNs) and all of them, except one, smoke. I can't wrap my brain around it. and most of them are clinically obese or borderline obese. what gives?
    Sleep deprivation causes obesity. Hospital food is awful. Nursing work is stressful and people self-medicate with nicotine or whatever other drugs they have available. No one is too interested in improving working conditions for nurses - it's easier to pick on fat people for being fat.


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    Quote Originally Posted by meepster View Post
    Sleep deprivation causes obesity. Hospital food is awful. Nursing work is stressful and people self-medicate with nicotine or whatever other drugs they have available. No one is too interested in improving working conditions for nurses - it's easier to pick on fat people for being fat.


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    I am sure that certain areas of hospitals are stress buckets. But I was at a Family Practice clinic that is open 8 to 5. I'm sure that they experience stress, but for the most part, it seemed pretty calm.

    All the nurses I know (which include a range of sizes/fitness levels) like the schedule that includes longer shifts.

    At any rate, appearing to be less than fit makes you a not very credible source of healthy lifestyle information. I can't imagine being a dietician for the Hyvee Supermarket is as stressful as being an RN in a busy hospital.

    I'd say we are simply transitioning to a point where being obese is accepted as a normal and a condition of limited concern. I think part of my issue is I hang out with 20 something Crossfitters. When I look at my peers, for the most part, they look like the dietician. And well, at 40, they take pills and have health issues. And I look at myself and am like, damn, I am doing great; but then compared to fit people, I'm carrying excess fat.

    I feel like we are being set up for poor health being inevitable as we age. We should want better for ourselves. We should want to look like Rich and Mr Anthony and TQP. Triple Chins should not be OK, as long as we "have mobility". Excess fat is a sign that something is wrong. You'd think the medical community would give a shit and be working to figure out what is going wrong. Instead they are just like "it's OK to be fat, just stick to dark chocolate".

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    Quote Originally Posted by magnolia1973 View Post
    I'd say we are simply transitioning to a point where being obese is accepted as a normal and a condition of limited concern. I think part of my issue is I hang out with 20 something Crossfitters. When I look at my peers, for the most part, they look like the dietician. And well, at 40, they take pills and have health issues. And I look at myself and am like, damn, I am doing great; but then compared to fit people, I'm carrying excess fat.
    I was thinking about this a few days ago. I'm 58 and I take no medication, OTC or Rx but almost everyone I know around my age is fat and taking multiple medications. I'm far from being fit but at the gym in Suez last night, I was outperforming guys less than half my age. I'm not sure if that is a testament to my physical fitness or a statement about the overall condition of Egyptians (who are catching up to Americans), likely the latter.

    But still, we did about 1.5 hours of exercise and I still wasn't done, guess I'm doing ok.

    Regarding the medication, a lot of that is so unneeded. One article said that 70% of Americans are taking at least one prescription medication, 1 in 5 are taking 4 or more prescription medications.

    This does not count OTC (Over The counter) medications and I don’t think it includes vaccinations.

    And a lot of that is marketing, such as statin drugs being pushed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by meepster View Post
    Sleep deprivation causes obesity. Hospital food is awful. Nursing work is stressful and people self-medicate with nicotine or whatever other drugs they have available. No one is too interested in improving working conditions for nurses - it's easier to pick on fat people for being fat.
    It's easier to import foreigners who will put up with stressful working conditions than improve working conditions to make them humane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Anthony View Post
    Is this a real thing? A triple-chinned dietician telling people which candy to choose? Saw this pic without any context; maybe someone can find it online for the back story.



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    What horrifies me, FAR MORE than her matching chins, is the fact that she has NO EYEBROWS! Am I the only one to note this?
    I refuse to take anyone involved seriously that allows themselves (by a make-up artist or personally) to be portrayed in such a manner. Even if she suffers from alopecia or lost them to chemotherapy, they could have at least added some to balance the face and give a truer expression.
    [wanders off shaking head] the horror, the horror....

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    Quote Originally Posted by eats.meats.west View Post

    In other words, you wouldn’t know a FAT person if you saw him. He might actually be a 165 lb obese man.
    I might not know a 165lb "obese" (aka skinny fat) man when I see him, but I WOULD know a 300lbs obese man when I see him. (Caveat: rare out-liars like Shaq)
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    Quote Originally Posted by OyaOshun View Post
    What horrifies me, FAR MORE than her matching chins, is the fact that she has NO EYEBROWS! Am I the only one to note this?
    I refuse to take anyone involved seriously that allows themselves (by a make-up artist or personally) to be portrayed in such a manner. Even if she suffers from alopecia or lost them to chemotherapy, they could have at least added some to balance the face and give a truer expression.
    [wanders off shaking head] the horror, the horror....
    Interestingly, lack of eyebrows is a classic symptom of hypothyroid. So is weight gain, for that matter.
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