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    That's kinda what CrossFit is all about.

    That's kinda what CrossFit is all about.
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    I agree regarding the subsidies. However, if...

    I agree regarding the subsidies. However, if people decide they don't want products with corn syrup or wheat, companies will stop making them. Alas, most people don't care, and it is cheaper to use...
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    Yes, the reason why people choose to buy Cheetos,...

    Yes, the reason why people choose to buy Cheetos, Mt. Dew, Oscar Meyer, Oreos, Twix, Sunday Special Dozen Glazed Donuts, Captain Crunch, and Miracle Whip, is because the bananas and chicken thighs...
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    This has the potential to become a glute...

    This has the potential to become a glute activation thread...

    I am still hoping it doesn't...
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    Buy some shorts with flames on them, and take a...

    Buy some shorts with flames on them, and take a picture of yourself squatting while Rip is watching. Then have the shorts signed, and mail them to Gorbag.

    You will win the internets.
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    Pretty cool. Give us an update/review once you're...

    Pretty cool. Give us an update/review once you're done, I'd be interested to know what you thought of it.
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    Ooooh... Are you going to the SS seminar in...

    Ooooh... Are you going to the SS seminar in Brooklyn?
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    Shakeweight AMRAP in 10 minutes? 'Cause that's...

    Shakeweight AMRAP in 10 minutes?

    'Cause that's my weekend routine too.
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    Haha, exactly :D

    Haha, exactly :D
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    Variety's fine if that's the reason you're doing...

    Variety's fine if that's the reason you're doing it. Many people still think variety = "muscle confusion" = better results. I can't tell you how many people just randomly stop training effectively,...
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    It seems like an exercise that's designed to be...

    It seems like an exercise that's designed to be harder for no reason. Have the weight on your back or shoulders? Screw that, use less weight and hold it awkwardly in your arms.

    If someone wants to...
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    Zercher squats seem like the type of exercise...

    Zercher squats seem like the type of exercise that would attract some CrossFit kid, who will put too much weight on the bar, who will attempt to Zercher squat it on video, who will fail dangerously...
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    I enjoy having you here, OS, even though our...

    I enjoy having you here, OS, even though our views are quite different on most things. Don't leave..


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2Rch6WvPJE
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    It's probably all those things. And you are less...

    It's probably all those things. And you are less susceptible to injury because you're stronger.

    My only caveat with all this is that we're all human. Sometimes I have a bad rep. It's not on...
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    I agree but like with everything there's a...

    I agree but like with everything there's a balance. I think deadlifting 300lb will make you less susceptible to injury. Deadlifting 500lb+ though, I am not sure. I mean it will, but if you screw up a...
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    He can answer for himself, but I think the...

    He can answer for himself, but I think the variable he considers in determining efficiency is risk. His training is safer, and produced the same result, so he thinks it's better. We think it's worse...
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    It depends on how serious you are about training,...

    It depends on how serious you are about training, diet, etc. Length of time doesn't mean much. You can also gain only so much without pharmaceutical help. It's not like he's supposed to look like Jay...
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    I don't want to speak for OS, but I think his...

    I don't want to speak for OS, but I think his idea of efficiency is risk vs. reward, i.e. the least amount of risk for his goals. His goals are pure looks. The best program, for him, is that which...
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    You're forgetting that OS is not a fan of heavy...

    You're forgetting that OS is not a fan of heavy weight. He thinks heavy stuff, explosive stuff, barbell stuff, is dangerous, so if he can make his quads big by torturing himself on the leg press with...
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    I think OS's point is that he reached the same...

    I think OS's point is that he reached the same size without using such heavy weight, which in his mind is more efficient since he just wants size.

    In our minds it's the opposite, since OS is...
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    Fellas, let's not turn this into a session of...

    Fellas, let's not turn this into a session of vitriol. Let's just stick to talking about how much split squat are not as good as back squats :)
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    Well, one way to look at it is that a 705lb...

    Well, one way to look at it is that a 705lb deadlift made him same size as you.

    The other way to look at it is that he is the same size as you, but probably 2x as strong.
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    That's not real strength, he just got good at...

    That's not real strength, he just got good at deadlifting. He couldn't lift a heavy box off the floor with those deadlift/squat muscles.
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    Split squats, at least with a vertical back...

    Split squats, at least with a vertical back angle, are mostly quad and glute intensive. Hamstrings are not big players in this movement, and glutes less so than in regular squats because of the more...
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    Feeling destroyed is a good way to gauge workout...

    Feeling destroyed is a good way to gauge workout effectiveness. That's why CrossFit is so effective. Because it destroys you.
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