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    I'm not arguing definitions, you are.

    I'm not arguing definitions, you are.
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    Yawn, I don't play word games.

    Yawn, I don't play word games.
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    Actually I only stated a fact (most people don't...

    Actually I only stated a fact (most people don't lose weight), then everyone else went crazy bickering. They can stop bickering anytime they like, as their bickering won't change reality. :p
  4. What are you eating, boring dry chicken breasts??...

    What are you eating, boring dry chicken breasts??

    1.5lb Steak with some fat - 1500
    1.5lb Salmon - 1600
    1.5lb Fatty pork - 2300
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    It's not "a perspective", it's reality , most...

    It's not "a perspective", it's reality , most people don't lose fat long-term.

    There are reasons for that, and those might be helpful in solving the problem, though not necessarily helpful for...
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    This sort of advice "it's very complicated...

    This sort of advice "it's very complicated people, you need to understand all the nuances" doesn't work. The reason is because people aren't smart enough to understand, and they are busy...they need...
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    You don't actually know that though.

    You don't actually know that though.
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    The confidence comes from being right, a lot....

    The confidence comes from being right, a lot. :cool:
  9. The assumption here is that body fat drives blood...

    The assumption here is that body fat drives blood numbers. What's probably more accurate is that the foods you eat (and exercise to a lesser degree), drive both blood numbers and body fat.
  10. Perhaps overreacting / overthinking? Also if...

    Perhaps overreacting / overthinking?

    Also if it were permanent how could it happen again?
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    Of course, the "here is a rare example that...

    Of course, the "here is a rare example that worked for someone, so it is possible for you" is always used on the public as bait. Again, it is simply "see, you must be doing it wrong". Hope sells...
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    That is one possibility, there is another...

    That is one possibility, there is another possibility; that I'm correct.
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    Correct. A combination of things, 1) I...

    Correct.



    A combination of things, 1) I have better reasoning ability than the vast majority of the population, 2) my profession is solving macro-level problems such as this, and 3) I've logged...
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    That is a belief, that people have simply "done...

    That is a belief, that people have simply "done it wrong", or don't have the willpower.

    What I have said; that belief may turn out to be wrong. They may in fact, "gain back the weight out of thin...
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    Lots of people think the things I say to...

    Lots of people think the things I say to ridiculously stupid, until they turn out to be dead on, then people forget the conversation ever took place. ;)
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    Those are examples of beliefs; that facts are not...

    Those are examples of beliefs; that facts are not helpful, and that encouragement is helpful.

    In reality, understanding how weight REALLY works is probably important.
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    You've just babbling in circles. The...

    You've just babbling in circles.

    The metabolic syndrome diseases are caused by not eating animal fats while eating large amounts of sugar/grains, which leads to high TG/BS and low HDL. The end.
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    My post should have read "NOT adapted", typo.

    My post should have read "NOT adapted", typo.
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    Most of these people will gain the weight back. ...

    Most of these people will gain the weight back.



    No, looking reality in the face is important. The opposite of this is delusion, which is what everyone is doing.
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    If someone were to eat the same amount of...

    If someone were to eat the same amount of fructose from fruits, as Americans are getting from HFCS, it would basically be the same thing. Homo sapiens are NOT well adapted to these massive sugar...
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    Right, there is a disconnection between beliefs...

    Right, there is a disconnection between beliefs and statistics. Beliefs are that "oh you are just doing something wrong, tweak this...and it will work", but the stats say that no matter what people...
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    Nobody wants to say it, but it's basically...

    Nobody wants to say it, but it's basically impossible to lose weight long-term. The only sure way to lose it is to never gain it in the first place.
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    Naw, smoking is overhyped. Obesity is an outcome...

    Naw, smoking is overhyped. Obesity is an outcome of the sugar diet, same as heart disease (everyone has that backwards).
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    Just watched it, it was great. Typical sugar...

    Just watched it, it was great.

    Typical sugar effects -- he was physically and mentally messed up in no time flat. Mood swings, manic behavior, fuzzy thinking, looked like crap, increased body...
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    Obviously. Not eating fatty meat while eating...

    Obviously.

    Not eating fatty meat while eating tons of sugar are the greatest risk factors, because you end up with low HDL high TG and high BS, and then you have a heart attack or some other...
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