Marks Daily Apple Forum Topic: Highest Protein Foods

Marks Daily Apple Forum Topic: Highest Protein Foods http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/topic/highest-protein-foods Just another bbPress community en-US Thu, 18 Mar 2010 14:22:12 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.0.1 <![CDATA[Search]]> q http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/search.php lil_earthmomma on "Highest Protein Foods" http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/topic/highest-protein-foods#post-38629 Wed, 11 Nov 2009 00:45:21 +0000 lil_earthmomma 38629@http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/ Very cool article OTB!!! Pass the seafood! OnTheBayou on "Highest Protein Foods" http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/topic/highest-protein-foods#post-38607 Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:55:55 +0000 OnTheBayou 38607@http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/ Well, here's a bit of confirmation on my personal experience/theory about eating more protein to keep hunger at bay, plus the TEF. From Fitness Spotligh today: "Higher Protein and Weight Loss The other part of the equation when it comes to why you eat protein, is about your goals and how many calories you are intaking. Many people use the higher protein intakes when they are looking to lean out and minimize muscle loss. Protein being a harder macronutrient to convert to fat (than carbs or fat), makes it an easy choice to eat more of while keeping carbs/fat low. "Protein will also help you to feel fuller and less likely to overeat on any other macronutrient (fat/carbs). So even if you are intaking more than enough protein to maintain muscle, you are really doing it from another strategy that may include just trying to avoid excess calories and lean out." The whole article is an eye opener about protein, latest research. I won't spoil it for you. <a href="http://www.fitnessspotlight.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.fitnessspotlight.com</a> I think. wug on "Highest Protein Foods" http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/topic/highest-protein-foods#post-38361 Tue, 10 Nov 2009 05:28:35 +0000 wug 38361@http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/ Done! OnTheBayou on "Highest Protein Foods" http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/topic/highest-protein-foods#post-38349 Tue, 10 Nov 2009 03:21:01 +0000 OnTheBayou 38349@http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/ wug, shoot me an email and I'll send you my xls file. It also has the fat types, fat and carb percentages. paulv (you know)paulv.net Or anyone else, of course. wug on "Highest Protein Foods" http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/topic/highest-protein-foods#post-38333 Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:54:29 +0000 wug 38333@http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/ Thanks for this. I think I will copy and paste that list and email to myself. I am really struggling to consistently keep my protein levels up. OnTheBayou on "Highest Protein Foods" http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/topic/highest-protein-foods#post-38329 Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:33:11 +0000 OnTheBayou 38329@http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/ Fitday. Just click on the food in question in a new day page (blank) and there is the pie chart of nutrient percentages. I think you are forgetting that fat is 2.25 times more energy dense than protein or carbs. It doesn't take much fat to become a major player. MariaNYC on "Highest Protein Foods" http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/topic/highest-protein-foods#post-38288 Mon, 09 Nov 2009 21:31:44 +0000 MariaNYC 38288@http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/ Lobster has been on my mind all day, since making plans with some friends to go for lobster rolls later in the week....mmmm, yes it's been a while since I had lobster anything. actually I am surprised it is not more than 89%. I looked it up on Fitday earlier and it had virtually no fat ... how do you calculate % protein? OnTheBayou on "Highest Protein Foods" http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/topic/highest-protein-foods#post-38284 Mon, 09 Nov 2009 21:15:17 +0000 OnTheBayou 38284@http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/ @stevew: For a relatively sedentary 172 pound LBM, there's a good consensus that about 85 grams a day is sufficient. If you are seriously exercising, yes, up to twice that, fine. Some would say even more, but might be "The more the better" syndrome coming into play. Fats cannot digest protein, I've not seen that anywhere. One academic source is suggesting that protein should be rated at 3.2 calories per gram, just a bit more than a 25% TEF. @TT: Yes, as percentages of energy. @arthurb999: Why guess? And you are wrong. Salmon is 72% protein, not even as high as turkey breast. @mariaNYC. Ditto. But you guessed better than arthur. 89% protein. But who can afford it? MariaNYC on "Highest Protein Foods" http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/topic/highest-protein-foods#post-38269 Mon, 09 Nov 2009 20:33:59 +0000 MariaNYC 38269@http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/ what, no lobster?? ;) arthurb999 on "Highest Protein Foods" http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/topic/highest-protein-foods#post-38247 Mon, 09 Nov 2009 19:18:16 +0000 arthurb999 38247@http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/ I would guess fish has the highest concentration of protien. Maybe protien powder and water :D Tara tootie on "Highest Protein Foods" http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/topic/highest-protein-foods#post-38205 Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:47:17 +0000 Tara tootie 38205@http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/ Is the protein content by %? stevew on "Highest Protein Foods" http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/topic/highest-protein-foods#post-38111 Mon, 09 Nov 2009 09:09:21 +0000 stevew 38111@http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/ If protein is your primary energy source and you're on a calorie deficient diet, taking into account the TEF, would you have to take on a lot more protein to maintain/build/repair muscle (and other protein functions)? I mean 200g+- a day is probably not far off what you should be aiming for on a normal diet if you're over 200lbs and training enough, but normally the calories needed for digesting protein could come from more easily available energy sources i.e. fats and carbs. But instead the calories are coming from the protein itself so your net available protein (as a nutrient, not energy source) would be less? OnTheBayou on "Highest Protein Foods" http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/topic/highest-protein-foods#post-38020 Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:27:21 +0000 OnTheBayou 38020@http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/ JulieD, not to worry. I read the labels! The only products that I know of off hand with sugar added to make up for the blandness of not-so-fatty foods are most yogurts and salad dressings. I do use a witch's brew zero calorie salad dressing now. It's a mental life saver, even if Ranch isn't one of my faves. It's good for that dry chicken breast, besides salads. Once my weight is at target, no more of that kinda stuff. PrimalK on "Highest Protein Foods" http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/topic/highest-protein-foods#post-38014 Sun, 08 Nov 2009 21:38:59 +0000 PrimalK 38014@http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/ @OTB - I wasn't criticising nor was I suggesting that you were eating that much a day - it was just an observation. As I've written before, we are all different. Yes you're right, I'm not 200 pounds and I'm actually 5'4". Back in the CW days I probably easily put away 2000 a day, but now I can't. FWIW, I tend to go for more of a protein bias than a fat bias on some days, initially unintentionally, but now I find it works to mix it up a bit, Wishing you success in your venture... JulieD on "Highest Protein Foods" http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/topic/highest-protein-foods#post-37979 Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:33:04 +0000 JulieD 37979@http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/ OTB: Are you able to avoid sugar and other crap typically added to "non-fat" and lower fat foods? Del Mar Mel on "Highest Protein Foods" http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/topic/highest-protein-foods#post-37941 Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:26:52 +0000 Del Mar Mel 37941@http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/ Thanx OTB! Yes, I'm a newbie as of yesterday. Have been eating mostly raw foods and fish so am exploring a slightly different approach. I'm not sure I could tolerate as much fat but I stumbled across Carrie's Q&A post yesterday and I think my tendency would be to eat very similarly to how she eats. Thanks for the list. I think I'm going to buy a yogurt maker so I can make my own greek yogurt. Love the stuff but it's ridiculously expensive and most brands aren't organic. OnTheBayou on "Highest Protein Foods" http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/topic/highest-protein-foods#post-37935 Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:50:00 +0000 OnTheBayou 37935@http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/ I didn't say I'm EATING 2000 cals. Typically a few hundred less! Two thousand is just my chosen ceiling. After subracting the TEF of protein, I'm eating 1300-1600 cals a day. PrimalK, I'm going to guess that your best body weight isn't 200 pounds if 1000 c/d is fine by you. If it is, wow, that's low. If you are 5' tall, it's obvious why that's enough. one_eye_mike on "Highest Protein Foods" http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/topic/highest-protein-foods#post-37933 Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:42:58 +0000 one_eye_mike 37933@http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/ OTB, I had a very similar experience. I tried the classic primal blueprint way of eating for six months and gained weight. For me to keep my weight down total calories matter. As much as some around here seem to think we're all the same and should respond the same, it just isn't so. PrimalK on "Highest Protein Foods" http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/topic/highest-protein-foods#post-37928 Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:31:22 +0000 PrimalK 37928@http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/ I don't think I could eat 2000 cals a day if I tried, on Primal. I get full enough on around 1000. And I only know that because I've been using Fitday - it's not really any conscious effort to keep the cals low. OnTheBayou on "Highest Protein Foods" http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/topic/highest-protein-foods#post-37914 Sun, 08 Nov 2009 14:00:19 +0000 OnTheBayou 37914@http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/ Del Mar Mel: I think a "Welcome!" is in order, I don't recall seeing you post before. Yes, you are correct in your assumption. Sources like grains and fruit, of course, have no fat. But if one's diet is mostly animal sources, fat comes along. Exceptions, of course are non-fat dairy and some sea food. I thought it interesting that the much vaunted shrimp is no better than poultry breast. I, too, much prefer dark meat. Always have. But I've actually grown to like the light stuff, too. I'm aiming for 2000 cals/day or less. My protein intake, as mentioned in another thread, is typically 200 grams a day, plus or minus. I'll stay on this until I get my weight down to 200 pounds with some days off. "Off" meaning more typical PB, higher fats. Not carbs! stevew on "Highest Protein Foods" http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/topic/highest-protein-foods#post-37908 Sun, 08 Nov 2009 12:31:59 +0000 stevew 37908@http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/ Mmm I love the dark turkey meat, much tastier than breast! OTB, I dont know how many calories you're aiming for a day, but 50-60% cals from protein, would that make it around 350g+ of protein a day? I struggle to get a modest amount even though I have some form of meat/eggs/fish with every meal and occasional whey supp in between. How do you fit it all in?? syzchan on "Highest Protein Foods" http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/topic/highest-protein-foods#post-37895 Sun, 08 Nov 2009 07:07:26 +0000 syzchan 37895@http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/ Thanks OTB, I think I'm also going to give your high protein approach a try - seems to work better for me when I eat more protein than fat. Raphael on "Highest Protein Foods" http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/topic/highest-protein-foods#post-37875 Sun, 08 Nov 2009 03:57:16 +0000 Raphael 37875@http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/ How dare you, OTB! Jk, well glad to hear it's working for you! I'm eating tons of fat lately and though I, too, seemed to have hit a plateau, I feel better. I have yet to try a zero-carb diet. If that doesn't do it for me, I'll probably have a go at your VHP. How long do you plan on sticking to it? Are you ever going back to high fat? Great list, by the way. Del Mar Mel on "Highest Protein Foods" http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/topic/highest-protein-foods#post-37874 Sun, 08 Nov 2009 03:52:47 +0000 Del Mar Mel 37874@http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/ I'm assuming this person means that the fat present in the meats consumed will bump the fat content up to 50% or more so it otherwise watching fat. Just my guess but I would like clarification also. OnTheBayou on "Highest Protein Foods" http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/topic/highest-protein-foods#post-37873 Sun, 08 Nov 2009 03:52:30 +0000 OnTheBayou 37873@http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/ Yeah. I couldn't lose weight even at the same calorie levels. I was stuck on a plateau for two months, no matter what I tried. Now I am losing weight again and I'm hardly ever hungry. Fat really isn't any better than carbs when it comes to satiety. Raphael on "Highest Protein Foods" http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/topic/highest-protein-foods#post-37871 Sun, 08 Nov 2009 03:12:16 +0000 Raphael 37871@http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/ So you don't follow the high fat primal diet anymore? have you found something wrong with it? OnTheBayou on "Highest Protein Foods" http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/topic/highest-protein-foods#post-37868 Sun, 08 Nov 2009 02:50:59 +0000 OnTheBayou 37868@http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/ I'm not avoiding them, try as I might. It's simple. A gram of fat has almost 3 times the calories of protein after accounting for TEF (thermal effect of food.) By keeping my protein up to 50-60% of calories I find that my hungers are pretty much gone. I can go much further after eating, I've found. Note that despite best efforts, fats will still be 40-50% of the diet. If you eat animals, you will get fats. Raphael on "Highest Protein Foods" http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/topic/highest-protein-foods#post-37854 Sun, 08 Nov 2009 01:23:10 +0000 Raphael 37854@http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/ Sorry to ask, but why are you avoiding fats? OnTheBayou on "Highest Protein Foods" http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/topic/highest-protein-foods#post-37850 Sun, 08 Nov 2009 00:54:04 +0000 OnTheBayou 37850@http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/ Not soy! Here are some foods that I eat, sorted from maximum protein to lowest. This isn't the full chart, but you can figure the meat products have no carbs, the dairy have some. I'll put the whole chart up via link when I do a thread on my VHP diet. As you can see, it isn't easy to minimize the fat. So don't worry about not getting enough. Maybe an all scallops diet, anyone? PROTEIN Scallops, cooked 98 Egg Whites 92 Cheese, Mozzarella, Non-fat 90 Yogurt, Voskos Greek, Nonfat 83 Shrimp 82 Turkey Breast, No skin 82 Chicken Breast, No skin 80 Yogurt, Chobani Greek,Nonfat 78 Ham, Lean only 70 Yogurt, Stonyfield Nonfat 68 Chicken Livers 66 Turkey, Dark Meat 65 Steak, Cubed 62 Pork tenderloin or very lean 60 Steak, Ribeye 60 Beef Liver 59 Yogurt, Whole Milk 30 Bacon, conventional 29