Marks Daily Apple Forum Topic: All beans and Legumes diet

Marks Daily Apple Forum Topic: All beans and Legumes diet http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/topic/all-beans-and-legumes-diet Just another bbPress community en-US Mon, 22 Mar 2010 06:19:53 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.0.1 <![CDATA[Search]]> q http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/search.php Sue on "All beans and Legumes diet" http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/topic/all-beans-and-legumes-diet#post-24089 Tue, 15 Sep 2009 06:48:17 +0000 Sue 24089@http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/ Flatulence! klcarbaugh on "All beans and Legumes diet" http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/topic/all-beans-and-legumes-diet#post-24081 Tue, 15 Sep 2009 05:18:36 +0000 klcarbaugh 24081@http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/ You took that off of Tim Ferriss's website. CheriB on "All beans and Legumes diet" http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/topic/all-beans-and-legumes-diet#post-24006 Mon, 14 Sep 2009 22:41:51 +0000 CheriB 24006@http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/ I just stumbled upon Fifi's source: <a href="http://www.fourhourworkweek.com/blog/2007/04/06/how-to-lose-20-lbs-of-fat-in-30-days-without-doing-any-exercise/" rel="nofollow">http://www.fourhourworkweek.com/blog/2007/04/06/how-to-lose-20-lbs-of-fat-in-30-days-without-doing-any-exercise/</a> Take a look at his new blog though, "7 Reasons to Eat More Saturated Fat" Chunster495 on "All beans and Legumes diet" http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/topic/all-beans-and-legumes-diet#post-23921 Mon, 14 Sep 2009 17:07:35 +0000 Chunster495 23921@http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/ Honestly, if you consume less calories than what your body burns,... then yes, you can lose weight with whatever diet you choose, and with little exercise. But as you can see from this thread,.. it's not very good for you, nor advisable. gazb on "All beans and Legumes diet" http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/topic/all-beans-and-legumes-diet#post-23880 Mon, 14 Sep 2009 15:11:28 +0000 gazb 23880@http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/ Post to the "more or less flatulence" thread with your results! <a href="http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/topic/flatulence-more-or-less-since-going-primal" rel="nofollow">http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/topic/flatulence-more-or-less-since-going-primal</a> John F on "All beans and Legumes diet" http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/topic/all-beans-and-legumes-diet#post-23866 Mon, 14 Sep 2009 14:20:29 +0000 John F 23866@http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/ The all beans and legume diet.... That's a good one. :) Well, if you are on it 3 weeks should have told you something by now. Nobody here could possibly advise you on it. You would have to switch to the NO beans and legumes diet for starters. OnTheBayou on "All beans and Legumes diet" http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/topic/all-beans-and-legumes-diet#post-23865 Mon, 14 Sep 2009 14:09:35 +0000 OnTheBayou 23865@http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/ I certainly thought that, BB, with the first post. If a troll, spending a lot of time and effort to (maybe) get a rise out of us carnivores. Say, is that a cave painting of Grok? BigBeck89 on "All beans and Legumes diet" http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/topic/all-beans-and-legumes-diet#post-23842 Mon, 14 Sep 2009 12:38:39 +0000 BigBeck89 23842@http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/ <img src="http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p222/the_x-phile/ObviousTroll.jpg"> OnTheBayou on "All beans and Legumes diet" http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/topic/all-beans-and-legumes-diet#post-23838 Mon, 14 Sep 2009 12:20:41 +0000 OnTheBayou 23838@http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/ Fifi, it's weird. Not just because it has nothing to do with the core beliefs of this site, but weird even w/o a Paleo/Primal understanding. Your diet, it's like someone just made **** up. Maybe that's why the fiber, it makes more ****. Jedi on "All beans and Legumes diet" http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/topic/all-beans-and-legumes-diet#post-23834 Mon, 14 Sep 2009 12:13:29 +0000 Jedi 23834@http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/ <a href="http://www.marksdailyapple.com/primal-blueprint-101/" rel="nofollow">http://www.marksdailyapple.com/primal-blueprint-101/</a> Fifi for a really healthy diet and lifestyle please check out some of the articles in the above link :) Mick on "All beans and Legumes diet" http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/topic/all-beans-and-legumes-diet#post-23832 Mon, 14 Sep 2009 12:12:21 +0000 Mick 23832@http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/ <blockquote>this is what I am talking about ... comments much appreciated!</blockquote> Write a book; start a website (with a forum); and recommend this plan. Unfortunately, it will make people ill. But there we are. fifi on "All beans and Legumes diet" http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/topic/all-beans-and-legumes-diet#post-23830 Mon, 14 Sep 2009 11:06:54 +0000 fifi 23830@http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/ Okay Guys this is what I am talking about............ comments much appreciated! Slow carb diet Rule #1: Avoid “white” carbohydrates Avoid any carbohydrate that is — or can be — white. The following foods are thus prohibited, except for within 1.5 hours of finishing a resistance-training workout of at least 20 minutes in length: bread, rice, cereal, potatoes, pasta, and fried food with breading. If you avoid eating anything white, you’ll be safe. Rule #2: Eat the same few meals over and over again The most successful dieters, regardless of whether their goal is muscle gain or fat loss, eat the same few meals over and over again. Mix and match, constructing each meal with one from each of the three following groups: Proteins: Egg whites with one whole egg for flavor Chicken breast or thigh Grass-fed organic beef Pork Legumes: Lentils Black beans Pinto beans Vegetables: Spinach Asparagus Peas Mixed vegetables Eat as much as you like of the above food items. Just remember: keep it simple. Pick three or four meals and repeat them. Almost all restaurants can give you a salad or vegetables in place of french fries or potatoes. Surprisingly, I have found Mexican food, swapping out rice for vegetables, to be one of the cuisines most conducive to the “slow carb” diet. Most people who go on “low” carbohydrate diets complain of low energy and quit, not because such diets can’t work, but because they consume insufficient calories. A 1/2 cup of rice is 300 calories, whereas a 1/2 cup of spinach is 15 calories! Vegetables are not calorically dense, so it is critical that you add legumes for caloric load. Rule #3: Don’t drink calories Drink massive quantities of water and as much unsweetened iced tea, tea, diet sodas, coffee (without white cream), or other no-calorie/low-calorie beverages as you like. Do not drink milk, normal soft drinks, or fruit juice. I’m a wine fanatic and have at least one glass of wine each evening, which I believe actually aids sports recovery and fat-loss. Rule #4: Take one day off per week I recommend Saturdays as your “Dieters Gone Wild” day. I am allowed to eat whatever I want on Saturdays, and I go out of my way to eat ice cream, Snickers, Take 5, and all of my other vices in excess. I make myself a little sick and don’t want to look at any of it for the rest of the week. Paradoxically, dramatically spiking caloric intake in this way once per week increases fat loss by ensuring that your metabolic rate (thyroid function, etc.) doesn’t downregulate from extended caloric restriction. That’s right: eating pure crap can help you lose fat! Mick on "All beans and Legumes diet" http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/topic/all-beans-and-legumes-diet#post-23829 Mon, 14 Sep 2009 09:44:50 +0000 Mick 23829@http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/ <blockquote>When I say all beans&legumes diet, I meant my diet consists of no carbs, i.e. bread, dairy products, (only skimmed milk), plus I enhance the diet adding a bit of beef, with vegetables. And have loads of water, and some fruit intake! </blockquote> I understand. You mean you don't eat some carbohydrate-rich foods, such as bread (and perhaps potatoes). In addition, you don't eat dairy products (although you make an exception for skimmed milk). That's the bit you understand as being from Mark's plan - the "Primal Blueprint". Your protein intake comes from the beans. That's what you understand from previous schemes - the USDA Food pyramid, perhaps? - to be a good thing. That's because you understand it to be better for weight-loss. However, you do eat some beef. **** OK. Comment. No, I don't honestly believe it to be a good idea from any point of view. Not in terms of the Primal Blueprint, nor in any other. Mark doesn't include beans at all. But the point about beans is that they're only an acceptable source of protein when eaten with grains - because while both beans and grains do contain protein, neither has the full complement of amino acids. They have to be eaten together. But you just cut out the grains. You have to eat the beans with grains - or with first-class protein (meat, fish, eggs, or dairy products) - or your body can't utilize the protein in them. North American Indians in the South East, for example, ate their beans in succotash - a stew that had fish and green maize kernels in it. They didn't eat beans on their own. <blockquote>Although having read the above response, am very surprised, because just recently I've read that legumes/beans in any diet definitely is great in terms of good and high fibre intake etc! </blockquote> I don't believe there's any credible evidence to suggest that anyone needs to avoid them. However, I doubt they should be a major part of anyone's diet, and they do need to be prepared properly. All traditional societies seem to have prepared these, and many other plant-foods, with care - and for good reasons. Moreover, you need protein to build your body tissues, and beans on their own are not a good source of it (and not a particularly good source, anyway). As for the need to eat a lot of fibre - that's debatable. People have theorized that fibre in the diet is why some African populations have a low incidence of certain types of cancer. It may be; equally well, it may not be. It could be down to other things - for example: <a href="http://naturesplatform.com/health_benefits.html" rel="nofollow">http://naturesplatform.com/health_benefits.html</a> And there is some evidence that excessive amounts of fibre are harmful to the gut - particularly if you drink a lot of water, too, as you say you do. (Supposedly, the excess water makes the fibre swell more.) It's a grey area. Suffice to say, many historical communities had fairly low-fibre diets and it didn't seem to do them any harm. On the water - No-one knows where the "8 glasses of water a day" myth comes from. It's been tirelessly promoted by the sellers of mineral water and is an item of faith with some fringe "health" groups. The medical profession doesn't appear to agree: <a href="http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2002/08/020809071640.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2002/08/020809071640.htm</a> I should get a copy of Mark's book - that way you can see what he has to say in depth. I'm trying to think what's a good quick link to read now that would touch on some of the issues you've raised. Perhaps this - <a href="http://www.westonaprice.org/traditional_diets/nasty_brutish_short.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.westonaprice.org/traditional_diets/nasty_brutish_short.html</a> Jedi on "All beans and Legumes diet" http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/topic/all-beans-and-legumes-diet#post-23827 Mon, 14 Sep 2009 09:02:21 +0000 Jedi 23827@http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/ I am guessing you haven't read any of the basic facts about this site and the Primal Blueprint. Here we believe that biological evolution shows us that our bodies are best adapted to a paleolithic style of eating ie pre agriculture. Beans and legumes are foods which humans only recently began to eat, and as a a previous poster already mentioned, contain anti nutriants. They also contain a high percentage of carbs and you state your diet consists of no carbs, which appears contradictory. If you read some of the 101 guides here it will give you more of an idea of a healthy diet for life and weightloss. fifi on "All beans and Legumes diet" http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/topic/all-beans-and-legumes-diet#post-23825 Mon, 14 Sep 2009 07:57:44 +0000 fifi 23825@http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/ Hello again! When I say all beans&legumes diet, I meant my diet consists of no carbs, i.e. bread, dairy products, (only skimmed milk), plus I enhance the diet adding a bit of beef, with vegetables. And have loads of water, and some fruit intake! Although having read the above response, am very surprised, because just recently I've read that legumes/beans in any diet definitely is great in terms of good and high fibre intake etc! very surprised! Mick on "All beans and Legumes diet" http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/topic/all-beans-and-legumes-diet#post-23822 Mon, 14 Sep 2009 07:12:33 +0000 Mick 23822@http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/ It was probably posted as a joke. I mean here - and with the "only" in uppercase. <blockquote>whether I would also lose weight without doing much exercise?</blockquote> Sure. People can lose weight without exercising. For example, people in the final stages of cancer tend to lose weight. One can probably lose weight on almost any diet - at any rate in the short term, and providing one can stick to it (which is physiologically problematic with some diets, because they leave you unsatisfied). I tend to think that it's getting things backwards to think "What's the fastest way to lose weight?" Even if your chosen diet and exercise pattern was the best strategy for that - it's not - that wouldn't make it a healthy option. (Neither would it make eating like that a sensuously rewarding experience.) It's too easy to get sucked into seeing any activity in goal-driven terms. (It's particularly prevalent in modern Western society.) Better, in my view, to attend to the "here and now". Eat balanced (and appetizing) meals and exercise sensibly and don't worry so much about the "goal" (weight-loss). That's what's best for you; and the weight-loss will happen anyway, so long as you do that. Griff on "All beans and Legumes diet" http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/topic/all-beans-and-legumes-diet#post-23819 Mon, 14 Sep 2009 06:43:21 +0000 Griff 23819@http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/ You're making one of the worst dietary choices possible. Beans are poisonous to the body and you shouldn't eat them, both because they're full of anti-nutrients and because they are full of carbohydrates, neither of which are good for you. Eat meat, eggs and lots of good saturated fats like butter and coconut oil, as well as leafy greens and non-starchy vegetables. That will make you lose weight without doing much exercise - although you should exercise, too, because your body needs it. fifi on "All beans and Legumes diet" http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/topic/all-beans-and-legumes-diet#post-23816 Mon, 14 Sep 2009 06:23:46 +0000 fifi 23816@http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/ Hi there! I've just started (my third week now) eating ONLY an ALL beans & legumes & fruits diet everyday with only 1 day off in the week, where I eat other foods. Will appreciate if you will advise whether this will make me lose weight? And whether I would also lose weight without doing much exercise? Thanks!