[QUOTE=YogaBare;1209773]What's really weird is that thousands people report visiting similar places in dream time. When I first started astral projecting (spontaneously - never read anything about it, just started happening) I would always visit this one, really distinctive-looking place. I got to know it intimately. A few months later when I figured out what was happening to me, I started researching it and read loads of accounts from people describing the very same place...
It's almost like this is another level of reality, that really "exists", can only be accessed through our sub-consciousness.[/QUOTE]
That's crazy awesome!!
My lucid dreams always feel like familiar places - there are houses, people and places that I know in the dream but not in real life. Always wondered if I would recognize those houses if I ran into them when awake.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Knifegill;1209933]I'm one of the lucky ones. Had a recurring dream about a little girl who died in a shack on a beach. Several years later I visited a dam, it was the EXACT place. Except the shack was not there anymore, except in one of those picture plaque things. The dream was from the early 1900's, though, so it makes sense. I've also met a cliff and meadow that matched closely a dream scape, and a huge mossy roadside wall that triggers dream memories often. All of these places I discovered years after the dreams had come and gone.[/QUOTE]
Wow, you guys all have such crazy dreams! I rarely see places in my dreams that clearly, unless they are places that I know in real life, in which case I'll know that that's where I am. I may notice that things look different in the dream than they do in real life, but if it's a place that I don't know in real life, then I don't notice/see it clearly. I think it has to do with the fact that I often don't pay attention to my surroundings in real life so I don't notice things unless I'm already familiar with the place.
I was into lucid dreaming for a while, but I never pursued it long enough to get anywhere. I got to the point where I'd realize that I'm dreaming, but every time I tried really hard to bend the dream (get it to do what I wanted), I always ended up waking myself up. I have to pick it up again though. It's so much fun.
[QUOTE=YogaBare;1209639]Ah, so you're getting into the lucid dreaming more! How's it going? Did you ever check out that website I sent you?
Love that fashion photograph btw. Bruno Dayan is amazing.
It's going well. I'm visiting aspects of my past that I both do, and don't want to revisit. Except they're in different forms, and only by being awake and fully coherent, can I interpret the meaning. After writing it out immediately in my journal anyway. And, yup, but which one? You might want to refresh my memory.
[quote]This made me laugh. I can't really follow when you guys get into the minutiae of the science stuff, but get a kick out of the combo of heated Internet arguments and details so dry the letters start sliding all over the screen in senseless jumbles.
Those weren't my Oreos, but I like knowing there is a safe place for me to hang out if I eat The Sugar. Ice cream is my current food lover - so much variety! I have been eating a ton of it lately. I can't resist anything that has salted caramel as an ingredient.[/quote]
Haha, I try to add some sort of satirical touch to the science heavy posts, but it always ends up coming out boring anyway. When you dissect details, I guess it has that effect. Creativity is lost in science, at least that sort anyway.
Try rum raisin haagen daz, my favorite ice cream besides the coffee and green tea ones.
[quote]My lucid dreams always feel like familiar places - there are houses, people and places that I know in the dream but not in real life. Always wondered if I would recognize those houses if I ran into them when awake. [/quote]
That sense of deja vu? I always wonder if it's a memory based experience, correlated with dreams, or a neurological deficit related to improper electrical discharge in the brain. Sometimes, when falling asleep, or just during the day, I'll random experience a sharp electric sensation in my head, followed by a buzz. Never experienced deja vu proceeding it, but yeah, it does happen to me. Supposedly related to dissociative identity disorder, and or, anxiety, both of which I experience. My family has a history of it, plus other mental health issues like schizophrenia(ancestors, it supposedly hasn't gone down the line far enough within the last century, but who knows)
[quote]Meh, dreams are for fuckin and alien invansions.
Derp, my second to last cat looked exactly like yours. Her name was Naala and she was fully potty trained to go outside, such a great cat.[/quote]
Both of which exist in my dreams, except the aliens are already here. We talked about that in PM. ;)
[quote]Cat people, gotta like them! Awesome journal btw. [/quote]
[quote]I would say that is the first sign that something is wrong. Seek professional care immediately.
I had a quasi- lucid dream the other night. For years I've had a recurring dream where I am at a beach, right up against the shore line, but right behind me is a large wall or some other kind of inpenitrable object. Large waves begin to crash on me (and usually there are others with me) but we are unable to escape because we are trapped in front of this large wall. Anywho, the other night I had this dream but afterwards I was walking with someone and said, "You know, I have a dream about that happening all the time."[/quote]
Really? That's the first sign out of everything else wrong with me? Oh, but I'm not crazy, [i]everyone[/i] else is.
There are signs in dreams, that obviously correlate with how you're feeling in reality. What do you think yours means going by how you feel in reality?
[quote]I'll be thinking of you, fondly, frequently, fleetingly (because I have a short attention span) <3 [/quote]
Fleeting feelings are the best ones, doesn't give you enough time to get sick of them. :cool:
[quote]Oh Derp, your journal is kinda depressing, you know. It's weird, because in here, there is a totally different ambiance--completely different from everyone else's journal. I'm not sure how that's possible since it's just a thread in the MDA forums. Can threads have an ambiance? Apparently so.
Your writing style is also well suited for stream-of-consciousness novels, but I think yours would probably be very depressing.
And I totally understand about the wind. I hated not being able to light my cigarettes back when I smoked.
I have to start keeping a dream journal again so I can remember my dreams better. I've been having some weird ones lately, but my memories of them are so fleeting that I pretty much forget them within minutes of waking up. Then sometimes something reminds me of them again, but I still can't remember them clearly. Usually all that's left is a feeling. The only way I can hang on to those memories is if I write them down right after waking, but my mornings are so hectic that it's hard to find time. *Sigh*
I tried some of that kratom stuff. it's too much like an opiate for my taste. (I dislike opiates--they put me in a stupor that I just don't like. Well, the only times opiates are good is when they put me in that waking dream state, which is pretty cool, but I can't always achieve that. It's more often just a stupor accompanied by mild nausea.) It's supposed to be a stimulant a low doses and opiate-like at high doses. I started low--2 grams but felt nothing. I waited about an hour then took another gram. Then it was an opiate-like feeling, complete with the nausea (only when I move around--again, like an opiate). Don't know how I skipped over the stimulant phase. It did give me vivid and strange dreams though, but I can't remember them now. I think next time I'll just take it right before bed to get the dreams without experiencing the high. [/quote]
I think most things carry a different ambiance, like other journals, you can usually tell when a person is struggling with something, or if they're ignorant, jolly, carefree, caring, etc;
My ambiance is probably pretty dark, I have that sort of persona, and it's always carried over to everything about me in some way. I don't try to hide it, embracing it has led to all sorts of personal revelations with myself.
"I have one word to say upon the subject of profound writers, who are grown very numerous of late, and I know very well the judicious world is resolved to list me in that number. I conceive, therefore, as to the business of being profound, that it is with writers as with wells--a person with good eyes can see to the bottom of the deepest, provided any water be there; and that often when there is nothing in the world at the bottom besides dryness and dirt, though it be but a yard and half under ground it shall pass, however, for wondrous deep, upon no wiser a reason than because it is wondrous dark"
--Jonathan Swift, A Tale of a Tub
I'm not very good with stream-of-consciousness writing though, I have a hard time not picking and choosing words when I write them. It actually takes a good deal of talent to do that, it's a lot more difficult than it seems. I'm afraid if I were to do that it would just be an incomprehensible mess.
We could use these journals to document our dreams, would be interesting to see what we all dream of.
Ah, kratom, I share in your experience of the stupor -- I even wrote ridiculous things on this forum, I was absolutely smashed like nothing else, haha. I smoked it in a rolled cigarette, which reminds me that I need to try that with a piracetam, opiate, tobacco, caffeine stack. Should be interesting. I think it does have a good anti-anxiety feel to it though. I like to keep my eyes closed for as long as possible after I smoke it, so that it feels like a moving picture film. I can't remember how much I smoked, but it was [i]a lot[/i], so yeah, definitely opiate like high.
I would probably be a great candidate for lucid dreaming. I have been a vivid dreamer my entire life and i can always recall them. Many are still burned into my memory or are reoccurring. I just dont know if i can be bothered to start the regiment, it foes sound very interesting though. As for sharing, some dreams are probably better unshared, plus they seem to lose their meaning when trying to describe them.
I cannot wait for the day when we are able to record our dreams.
A lot of stream-of-consciousness writing is an incomprehensible mess. :p You read it for the feeling, not comprehension, IMO.
I need to start keeping a dream journal again so I can remember my dreams better in order to share them. I think it would be fun to share.
So I had to look up what piracetam is and saw this on Wikipedia:
"Piracetam has become a popular supplement in the subculture of lucid dreaming. Its use has been largely made popular by a book published by "Thomas Yuschak" titled "Advanced Lucid Dreaming The Power of Supplements". Piracetam is not used directly to cause vivid dreams; it is even said to prevent them. The premise for its use is to counter the desensitization of acetylcholine receptors in the brain caused by taking another supplement, Galantamine, which is said to cause stronger, more vivid dreaming experiences. Piracetam is taken immediately after having a lucid dream experience with Galantamine. The lucid dreamer will then not take the supplement combination again until the Galantamine has completely left their system (approximately 30 hours). Piracetam has a peak plasma time of 1.5 hours and an elimination half-life equal to 5 hours. For the purpose of lucid dreaming dosing is much lower than doses taken in clinical studies, averaging typically 2400 mg."
Have you tried this galantamine stuff?
Ok im going to share my dreams last night because i was able to have two lucid parts just from this conversation.
First dream, two real life friends and I where in a futuristic amazon setting, looking for the worlds tallets trees to base jump out of. We were in a boat when we saw them, three massive trees on the seperate islands, they were the african style tree, really tall and reached really far. Thee biggest of them was a thousand feet tall at least, took up much of the sky. When we got there, there was a small town up in the branches of the tree. We get to the top and look out and my friend thinks its not high enough so he climbes a lone limb to the top, we tell him to go and he does. This is where i lucid dream, i completely remember thinking that because of this thread, i know this is a dream. So i jump off the plateform i was on and instead of open the shoot i start to fly, i do big arching swoops, they felt like i was in a massive swing and got that weird feeling in my balls/stomach. Im super afraid of heights in real life so after a few swoops i wake myself up.
Second dream after falling back asleep, I was in a big building with a bunch of people on every room, i didnt know them. I knew people were after me and i found several guns lying around so i grabbed them. I ended up getting in a gun fight with multiple women in uniforms, i could see through walla and angle bullets. Then i ran out and had to run, ran to a parking lot and then the dream shifted. I found a woman i know in real life that i am attracted to. She looked a bit differet but mainly the same. We went inside her apartment and no one was home, she was complaining about her partner saying he was crazy and mean. We started cuddling on the couch and it got sexual fast. Usually i would wake myself up or something would go wrong like partner would come home but again i recalled it being a dream and we ended up having amazing sex for quite awhile. I woke humping the bed and being woken up by my phone. Lol!
Overall, very interesting experience. I think falling asleep while thinking about lucid dreaming is one of the steps to getting there? It certainly happened last night.
[QUOTE=Derp]Really? That's the first sign out of everything else wrong with me? Oh, but I'm not crazy, everyone else is.[/QUOTE]
Well we all know how much you love arguing about fat oxidation.
[QUOTE]There are signs in dreams, that obviously correlate with how you're feeling in reality. What do you think yours means going by how you feel in reality?[/QUOTE]
Seems pretty textbook to me. I feel overwhelmed by something and feel there is no out.
Fleeting feelings are the best ones, doesn't give you enough time to get sick of them.[/QUOTE]
I <3 Would <3 Never <3 Get <3 Sick <3 Of <3 Thinking <3 About <3 You <3
[QUOTE=Zach]I woke humping the bed...[/QUOTE]
Story of my life.
I'm not surprised that this conversation alone triggered lucid dreams for you. I know we dream about what's going on in our subconscious, but I often dream about what's right in the forefront of my mind. That's awesome, though!
It really was cool. I think it helped reading this thread right before i went to bed. I even remember thinking about this in my dream saying to myself "derp said i can" or something. Haha.
[QUOTE=Zach;1212943]It really was cool. I think it helped reading this thread right before i went to bed. I even remember thinking about this in my dream saying to myself [B]"derp said i can"[/B] or something. Haha.[/QUOTE]
That's how I get into half of all my messes...
[QUOTE=Zach;1212895]Ok im going to share my dreams last night because i was able to have two lucid parts just from this conversation.
This is where i lucid dream, i completely remember thinking that because of this thread, i know this is a dream. So i jump off the plateform i was on and instead of open the shoot i start to fly, i do big arching swoops, they felt like i was in a massive swing and got that weird feeling in my balls/stomach. Im super afraid of heights in real life so after a few swoops i wake myself up.
Usually i would wake myself up or something would go wrong like partner would come home but again i recalled it being a dream and we ended up having amazing sex for quite awhile. I woke humping the bed and being woken up by my phone. Lol!
Overall, very interesting experience. I think falling asleep while thinking about lucid dreaming is one of the steps to getting there? It certainly happened last night.[/QUOTE]
Haha, that's awesome! Yeah, I think thinking about lucid dreaming could help you lucid dream. :cool:
Now I can't wait to go to sleep. I'll just keep thinking about this thread and see if I can get myself to lucid dream. Well, at least remember my dreams more clearly. That would be a start. ;)